nsa whistleblower e snowden

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/s...204241311.html


i wonder how far all this will go? hopefully to the point that the patriot act is repealed.
it needs to join the dustheap that contains the alien and sedition act.

also, there is a white house petition that's calling for the repeal of the patriot act, please go and sign it. if enough signatures are received, it will receive white house attention. perhaps more importantly, it needs enough signatures to get media attention.
and i will be contacting all my congressmen and women to ask for repeal.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/s...204241311.html


i wonder how far all this will go? hopefully to the point that the patriot act is repealed.
it needs to join the dustheap that contains the alien and sedition act.

also, there is a white house petition that's calling for the repeal of the patriot act, please go and sign it. if enough signatures are received, it will receive white house attention. perhaps more importantly, it needs enough signatures to get media attention.
and i will be contacting all my congressmen and women to ask for repeal.

I'm just waiting for this to degenerate down to the typical false Right - Left paradigm.
You know - "well, it would be worser if the Republicans were in charge" or "See, I told you Obama is a Fascist" all the while ignoring the fact that there is no difference between either of them.

How pray tell, would they (Republicans AND Democrats) ever give up the control they empowered themselves with by repealing the "Patriot" Act?

When you see Barbara Feinstein(D) and Mike Rogers(R) arm in arm on ABC's This Week, extolling the virtues of PRISM, you know that it ain't going nowhere.

Because someone signed an online petition? Does anyone with a brain in their head not believe that these *petitions* are nothing but self signed, anti-govt confessions? you want to get on their terrorist list? Easy - sign a petition to repeat PRISM and the Patriot Act.

Sheep don't care; as long as they aren't doing anything wrong, why should they care that the govt can spy on them?

I just enjoy being told how I "threw away my vote" by voting for the Libertarian party, which would have abolished all of this nonsense day 1, but I digress.

[GenuineRisk]

From the article:

<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

Saywhatcomeagain?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

From the article:

<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

Saywhatcomeagain?

That's pretty funny, but considering he is dependant upon China not extraditing him, may not have been a bad idea.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That's pretty funny, but considering he is dependant upon China not extraditing him, may not have been a bad idea.

Excellent point. I guess the number of nations not afraid to refuse to extradite to the US is probably pretty small.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

From the article:

<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

Saywhatcomeagain?

er....yeah

[dellinger63]

Let's first worry about that smarmy treasonous Bradley Manning as a president for what this non-military piece of shiat is facing?

Not sure the piece of shiat that was the private contractor can be held to the same standards as a sworn in military person?

[dellinger63]

But I'm good with firing squad for Manning for sure.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Let's first worry about that smarmy treasonous Bradley Manning as a president for what this non-military piece of shiat is facing?

Not sure the piece of shiat that was the private contractor can be held to the same standards as a sworn in military person?

so, it's your assertion that snowden is a 'piece of shiat'?!

'At the same time, legal experts saw differences between the two cases, namely that Manning's secret-spilling was more scattershot, while Snowden appeared more selective.

"I'm not awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom here," Eugene R. Fidell, who teaches military law at Yale Law School, said of Snowden. "I'm just saying you could say it is something more akin to educating the American public about sensitive surveillance issues that have some level of First Amendment concern attached to them."'

i am glad that snowden let the public know, by going to the post, about what was going on. he didn't turn over a bunch of classified info, he just let out that the phone records were being checked en masse. and i'm glad he did so.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

From the article:

<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

Saywhatcomeagain?

You can't compare Hong Kong to mainland China. There is obviously no free speech in China. Hong Kong is totally different. There is free speech in Hong Kong.

[Danzig]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/wo...anted=all&_r=0


most likely would be extradited from HK.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You can't compare Hong Kong to mainland China. There is obviously no free speech in China. Hong Kong is totally different. There is free speech in Hong Kong.

Except he didn't say "Hong Kong," he said, "China." And it's not as free as you think:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/f...2012/hong-kong

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Except he didn't say "Hong Kong," he said, "China." And it's not as free as you think:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/f...2012/hong-kong

eh, china...hong kong...what's the difference?