2013-2014 NBA Season

Duvalier · #1 10-16-2013, 10:52 PM

Miami Heat 61½
Los Angeles Clippers 57
Chicago Bulls 56½
San Antonio Spurs 55½
Houston Rockets 54½
Indiana Pacers 54½
Brooklyn Nets 52½
Golden State Warriors 51½
Oklahoma City Thunder 51½
Memphis Grizzlies 50½
New York Knicks 49½
Denver Nuggets 46
Dallas Mavericks 43½
Minnesota Timberwolves 41
Cleveland Cavaliers 40
Detroit Pistons 40
Atlanta Hawks 39½
New Orleans Pelicans 39
Washington Wizards 39
Portland Trail Blazers 38½
Los Angeles Lakers 36½
Toronto Raptors 35½
Sacramento Kings 31
Milwaukee Bucks 29
Boston Celtics 27½
Charlotte Bobcats 26
Utah Jazz 25
Orlando Magic 24
Phoenix Suns 21
Philadelphia 76ers 17

Some low expectations for the Celtics, Lakers and Jazz...a bit more optimistic when it comes to the Wizards, Cavs, Pistons, Pelicans and T-Wolves.

Cannon Shell · #2 10-17-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier

Miami Heat 61½
Los Angeles Clippers 57
Chicago Bulls 56½
San Antonio Spurs 55½
Houston Rockets 54½
Indiana Pacers 54½
Brooklyn Nets 52½
Golden State Warriors 51½
Oklahoma City Thunder 51½
Memphis Grizzlies 50½
New York Knicks 49½
Denver Nuggets 46
Dallas Mavericks 43½
Minnesota Timberwolves 41
Cleveland Cavaliers 40
Detroit Pistons 40
Atlanta Hawks 39½
New Orleans Pelicans 39
Washington Wizards 39
Portland Trail Blazers 38½
Los Angeles Lakers 36½
Toronto Raptors 35½
Sacramento Kings 31
Milwaukee Bucks 29
Boston Celtics 27½
Charlotte Bobcats 26
Utah Jazz 25
Orlando Magic 24
Phoenix Suns 21
Philadelphia 76ers 17

Some low expectations for the Celtics, Lakers and Jazz...a bit more optimistic when it comes to the Wizards, Cavs, Pistons, Pelicans and T-Wolves.

Houston under
Golden State under
Memphis over
Denver under
Atlanta over
Portlnd over
And amazingly enough Philly under. They may not win 12 games. I believe they are the worst NBA team I can remember. With their current roster they wouldn't even be the favs to win the NBA summer league title.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 10-17-2013, 07:13 AM

Ill have my NBA thoughts tonight.

Duvalier · #4 10-17-2013, 08:40 AM

Good stuff Chuck. I remember you coming up big with your NBA O/U's a season or two back...going something like 5-0. Love seeing over on the Blazers...I think they make the playoffs this year as a 7th or 8th seed with a much improved bench. I like what Olshey is doing out there.

Cannon Shell · #5 10-17-2013, 03:18 PM

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Good stuff Chuck. I remember you coming up big with your NBA O/U's a season or two back...going something like 5-0. Love seeing over on the Blazers...I think they make the playoffs this year as a 7th or 8th seed with a much improved bench. I like what Olshey is doing out there.

Portland is a little banged up and will be less than full strength for the beginning of the season which is probably why the total is low but a few of the west teams clearly are down and the blazers have a pretty good core of players (Aldridge, Batum, Lillard, Lopez) and vets looking for one more contract (Mo Williams, Wes Mathews, Dorell Wright) and a couple of potential emerging role players (Robinson, Leonard, injured rookie McCollum, Crabbe) and should be a .500 team or a touch better if the small ball works.

Love to see a Aldridge, Batum, Lillard, McCollum, and Mathews/Williams/Crabbe small ball unit for a few minutes a game.

Houston is going to be good but they have to figure out to play Asik and Howard together and figure out the guard rotation. I figure they blow a couple games early in the season and finish strong.

Golden State's total depends a great deal on the health of Curry's ankle Bogut and the likelihood of them staying healthy all year is not strong. AI is a great pickup as he can give them what Jack gave them and he is a plus defender which helps. But I think the loss of Landry will hurt the bench and they aren't sneaking up on anyone anymore.

I don't see why Memphis won't win 55 games. Picked up shooting in Miller, some more size in Koufos, and get a full season of Prince and Ed Davis. None of these are earth shattering moves but add to an already established, solid playoff contender in a weakened West.

I'm not exactly sure what the plan in Denver is. Don't like the moves they made. They are looking like a terrible defensive team.

I believe Atlanta is going to be OK. Made some low key moves but IMO will be better without Josh Smith.

I'd lean under on Miami simply because they might cruise if home court advantage is wrapped up and lose a few games late. Wade and Allen aren't getting younger and I'm sure Miami will be looking to rest legs for the playoffs.

No opinion on Clippers

Lean over with Bulls. They are going to be really good though health is always a concern.

No opinion on SA or Indy

probably lean under on Brooklyn

No opinion on Knicks, Dallas, MN, Cleveland

Lean under on Detroit though I do kind of like them

New Orleans and Washington are about right.
The Lakers are a mess
I have no feel for Toronto though I do think addition by subtraction is in play with Bargnani leaving. Valanciunas is going surprise a lot of people

Sacramento could win 40 or 20.

Milwaukee has a bizarre group of players.

Think Boston would probably win 30 but can't stomach ever rooting for them regardless of how stripped down the roster is.

Utah has a decent starting group till Burke got hurt but the bench is abysmal

Orlando is not a good team but is putting together decent enough pieces. Love Tobias Harris, Milwaukee really screwed themselves trading him for a few months of JJ Reddick and a blowout in the 1st round of the playoffs. Lori loves Vucevic!

Phoenix is a terrible team. 22 wins is not impossible though

The 76'ers probably did the right thing blowing it up, trading a good but not great Holiday for a potentially top defensive player in Noel and another potential high draft pick in a loaded draft to go along with theirs. Being horrendous allows Carter-Williams and the other rookies and 1st and 2nd year players the freedom to get experience with no expectations. Royce White is a lottery ticket that may hit though his fear of flying makes things a bit difficult. But they will probably play hard and in the NBA that will win you a few games during the long season. But I don't see how they can win 18.

Duvalier · #6 10-18-2013, 05:31 PM

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Portland is a little banged up and will be less than full strength for the beginning of the season which is probably why the total is low but a few of the west teams clearly are down and the blazers have a pretty good core of players (Aldridge, Batum, Lillard, Lopez) and vets looking for one more contract (Mo Williams, Wes Mathews, Dorell Wright) and a couple of potential emerging role players (Robinson, Leonard, injured rookie McCollum, Crabbe) and should be a .500 team or a touch better if the small ball works.

LaMarcus Aldridge pulled early from the game Wed and headed to the locker room...went for an MRI Thursday after sitting out practice, and he is sitting out tonight's game. Hopefully it's just precautionary and nothing serious or the Blazers are in major trouble. That organization has seen more than it's fair share of injuries.

Duvalier · #7 10-24-2013, 08:33 PM

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Royce White is a lottery ticket that may hit though his fear of flying makes things a bit difficult. But they will probably play hard and in the NBA that will win you a few games during the long season. But I don't see how they can win 18.

Well his stay in Philly didn't last long...released by the Sixers today. Philly now has to swallow the $1.7 million owed to him during the second year of his rookie contract. I really can't see him getting anymore chances in the NBA.

Cannon Shell · #8 01-27-2014, 05:20 PM

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Houston under
Golden State under
Memphis over
Denver under
Atlanta over
Portlnd over
And amazingly enough Philly under. They may not win 12 games. I believe they are the worst NBA team I can remember. With their current roster they wouldn't even be the favs to win the NBA summer league title.

mid season report

Houston needs to go 26-10 to be over
GS needs to go 25-11 to be over
Memphis needs to 29-9 to be over
Denver needs to go 25-14 to be over
Atlanta needs to go 17-22 to be over
Portland needs to go 7-30 to be over
Philadelphia needs to go 4-34 to be over

PHL is a loss
POR is a win
ATL should be a win
MEM should be a loss.
DEN should be a win
HOU and GS are still in play though I like my chances at this point.

cmorioles · #9 01-27-2014, 05:32 PM

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mid season report

Houston needs to go 26-10 to be over
GS needs to go 25-11 to be over
Memphis needs to 29-9 to be over
Denver needs to go 25-14 to be over
Atlanta needs to go 17-22 to be over
Portland needs to go 7-30 to be over
Philadelphia needs to go 4-34 to be over

PHL is a loss
POR is a win
ATL should be a win
MEM should be a loss.
DEN should be a win
HOU and GS are still in play though I like my chances at this point.

I wouldn't be too confident on Denver if it were me. They are over 500 barely, but streaky. You are confident they can play 640 ball down the stretch? I would personally be thinking loss on that one with some hope of a turn around.

Duvalier · #10 01-27-2014, 05:46 PM

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I wouldn't be too confident on Denver if it were me. They are over 500 barely, but streaky. You are confident they can play 640 ball down the stretch? I would personally be thinking loss on that one with some hope of a turn around.

He has the under 46 for Denver.

Cannon Shell · #11 01-27-2014, 05:54 PM

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I wouldn't be too confident on Denver if it were me. They are over 500 barely, but streaky. You are confident they can play 640 ball down the stretch? I would personally be thinking loss on that one with some hope of a turn around.

Yeah I have them under and with so many teams in the West jockeying for position right to the end of the season I dont see Denver winning 25 more. Philly really surprised me but I suppose the East is so bad that I should have seen it coming. Brown has done a nice job though. Memphis didnt get off to a good start but then has been killed by injuries.

Duvalier · #12 01-27-2014, 06:00 PM

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Yeah I have them under and with so many teams in the West jockeying for position right to the end of the season I dont see Denver winning 25 more. Philly really surprised me but I suppose the East is so bad that I should have seen it coming. Brown has done a nice job though. Memphis didnt get off to a good start but then has been killed by injuries.

I still think letting Hollins go was a huge mistake for the Grizzlies. Hollins > metrics...but the Gasol injury did kill them.

cmorioles · #13 01-27-2014, 06:08 PM

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Yeah I have them under and with so many teams in the West jockeying for position right to the end of the season I dont see Denver winning 25 more. Philly really surprised me but I suppose the East is so bad that I should have seen it coming. Brown has done a nice job though. Memphis didnt get off to a good start but then has been killed by injuries.

Gotcha, I got confused, which doesn't take much. I agree then, that should be a win.

Cannon Shell · #14 04-18-2014, 01:23 PM

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Houston under W
Golden State under W
Memphis over L
Denver under W
Atlanta over L
Portlnd over W
And amazingly enough Philly under. LThey may not win 12 games. I believe they are the worst NBA team I can remember. With their current roster they wouldn't even be the favs to win the NBA summer league title.

Tough year as Memphis and Atlanta would have easily been over w/o long term injuries of Gasol and Horford.

Cannon Shell · #15 04-18-2014, 05:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYJULACcao#t=111

For PG

RockHardTen1985 · #16 04-18-2014, 08:33 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYJULACcao#t=111

For PG

I actually prefer Houston to come out of the West. I guess we will see about Harden in a few weeks. I predict he averages 30ppg vs Portland.

Cannon Shell · #17 04-18-2014, 09:44 PM

East
Indiana over Atlanta in 5
Miami over Charlotte in 4
Toronto over Brooklyn in 7
Chicago over Washington in 6

Indiana over Chicago in 7
Miami over Toronto in 5

Miami over Indiana in 6

West
SA over Dallas in 5
Houston over Portland in 7
LA Clips over GS in 5
OKC over Memphis in 5

SA over Houston in 5
OKC over LA Clips in 7

SA over OKC in 7

Finals
SA over Miami in 7