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Old 05-08-2014, 08:44 PM
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Through 3 picks in the first round, nothing unexpected...Then the Bills give up a #1 and a #2 next year to move up to 5 spots from 9 to 4 to get Sammy Watkins. Now we get to see if Manuel is the real deal.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:51 PM
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I know Bortles going to Jacksonville #3 isn't a complete surprise but I still think it qualifies as a small one.

I had him in the 2nd tier.
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Browns pick interesting at 8
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:10 PM
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Browns pick interesting at 8
That's the most pleasant way it will ever be put.

Seriously, WTF?
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:19 PM
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What's wrong with Hoyer? He looked great until the injury.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:25 PM
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And Bridgewater will probably still be around for the #26 pick if they want him.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:40 PM
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What's wrong with Hoyer? He looked great until the injury.
Through 3 games:

CMP%=59.4

YDS=1,231

TD=7

INT=6

Rating=77.4

And potentially injury prone.

If any of the 3 are there at 26 they would be nuts to pass a QB up.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:09 PM
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Cleveland bein' Cleveland...

Passes on Carr/Bridgewater/Manziel to take a CB with the 9th overall


YOU DO NOT HAVE A QUARTERBACK!


I said it last season, it must be exhausting being a Browns fan
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:27 AM
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Through 3 picks in the first round, nothing unexpected...Then the Bills give up a #1 and a #2 next year to move up to 5 spots from 9 to 4 to get Sammy Watkins. Now we get to see if Manuel is the real deal.
He's not.

Cleveland needed Johnny Football in the worst way. Can't wait to see him in the league.
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He's not.

Cleveland needed Johnny Football in the worst way. Can't wait to see him in the league.
I can't wait to see him, um, get fuking pasted by Vontaze Burfict when he tries that tap dance sh1t outside the pocket.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:53 AM
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I can't wait to see him, um, get fuking pasted by Vontaze Burfict when he tries that tap dance sh1t outside the pocket.
He'll have to rein in his game some but the guy can ball.
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He'll have to rein in his game some but the guy can ball.
Agree on the talent piece. Time will tell if he can embrace the discipline. Guess that's what makes great coaches.
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Through 3 picks in the first round, nothing unexpected...Then the Bills give up a #1 and a #2 next year to move up to 5 spots from 9 to 4 to get Sammy Watkins. Now we get to see if Manuel is the real deal.
They spent like he is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Of course I like the pick but they paid way too much.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:00 AM
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There was a huge cliff after him IMO. If that's where they were going, I guess they needed to do it, and Cleveland knew full well that they could extort the pick.

He would not have lasted another pick. Oakland or Atlanta would have grabbed him.
And as far as I'm concerned, Mike Evans is no better at 7 than Odell Beckham at 12 who isn't noticably better than Brandin Cooks at 20. The Bucs wasted a draft pick rather than trade down for some later round picks. But none of the 3 come close to Sammy Watkin's talent.

Cleveland's 1st round draft was impeccable. They get a 1st and 4th rd. pick next year and still got Manziel.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:19 AM
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There was a huge cliff after him IMO. If that's where they were going, I guess they needed to do it, and Cleveland knew full well that they could extort the pick.

He would not have lasted another pick. Oakland or Atlanta would have grabbed him.
And as far as I'm concerned, Mike Evans is no better at 7 than Odell Beckham at 12 who isn't noticably better than Brandin Cooks at 20. The Bucs wasted a draft pick rather than trade down for some later round picks. But none of the 3 come close to Sammy Watkin's talent.

Cleveland's 1st round draft was impeccable. They get a 1st and 4th rd. pick next year and still got Manziel.
I like Beckham a lot, but Evans is really good. The concerns about him are clear, that he played in a specific system that doesn't always translate, but he is everything you want in a modern receiver in my opinion.

New Orleans is going to annoy the s.hit out of everyone with Cooks, who was an excellent pick.

It was expected, both because of the current league composition and the players available, but the lack of importance of running backs could not be clearer at this point.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:52 AM
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I like Beckham a lot, but Evans is really good. The concerns about him are clear, that he played in a specific system that doesn't always translate, but he is everything you want in a modern receiver in my opinion.

New Orleans is going to annoy the s.hit out of everyone with Cooks, who was an excellent pick.

It was expected, both because of the current league composition and the players available, but the lack of importance of running backs could not be clearer at this point.
Agree completely - all 3 are great prospects - my only point was that I feel the Bucs overspent at 7 when they could have complemented Vincent Jackson with Cooks at 20, and been fairly equal.


Evan's knock is that he's one dimensional, but like you said, that well could have been the system he played in.

Tampa is going to be thrilled they have him, but I would have preferred a move down for an early 2nd round pick, taken any one of the 3 left with the move down, and grabbed a blue chip QB with the newly acquired second round pick. Maybe that was never a possibility, but you'd think they would have at least pursued something like that...

Lovie is on record as saying that Glennon is the future - they didn't give Mcknown 8 mil to carry a clipboard and highly doubt that they will not entertain the idea of a QB, though O line has to be their next priority.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:56 AM
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Evans is a monster. Big, strong, athletic with great hands. Doesn't have blinding speed but is fast enough to get behind a defense. He reminds me of Brandon Marshall.

Tons of good receivers in this draft. Hoping the Jets grab Jordan Matthews in the 2nd round.
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