Classic DQ -- Update: Overhead video unearthed

[Siena 16]

California Stewards were never gonna DQ a Calif trainer like Baffert and move up a European. If Shared Belief finished 2nd, there would have been a DQ

[Indian Charlie]

Woah

[booner]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

California Stewards were never gonna DQ a Calif trainer like Baffert and move up a European. If Shared Belief finished 2nd, there would have been a DQ

Really dude. Put the pipe down.....

[Arletta]

Just saw this and laughed.

"The B in CHRB stands for Baffert or Bullsh*it" I can't remember which"..

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

California Stewards were never gonna DQ a Calif trainer like Baffert and move up a European. If Shared Belief finished 2nd, there would have been a DQ

and if cal chrome finished 2nd, what would the cali stewards do then? lol

[Indian Charlie]

They'd have dq'd chrome for hanging late in the race. Obviously

[LARHAGE]

That was an embarrassingly bad call, that horse eliminated half the field, looked like a Quarter Horse race at Los Alamitos.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

That was an embarrassingly bad call, that horse eliminated half the field, looked like a Quarter Horse race at Los Alamitos.

Yes, it was, but we all knew he wasn't coming down.

I wouldn't have been surprised if there'd have been a second inquiry in that race as well.

That start was like a Sam who lite.

[Benny]

http://www.drf.com/news/bayern-survi...ins-bc-classic

She said the decision by the stewards was unanimous.

Ninety minutes after the race, the California Horse Racing Board released a statement from Chaney that said, in part, “The incident occurred in a part of the race where the horses interfered with were not cost the opportunity to place where they were reasonably expected to finish.”

WHAT ??? Shared belief was the favorite to win,how does that jive go ???

The CHRB Safety Rules

"We want your involvement in helping us develop methods that will ultimately result in longer, more productive careers for your horses, safer conditions for the riders and a positive public image for horse racing....."

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/racing_safety.html

The stewards rule on DQ, is so nice and general.

Rule Title
1543 Stewards to Determine Fouls and Extent of Disqualification.
Rule Text The stewards shall determine the extent of disqualification in cases of fouls or riding or drivinginfractions. They may place the offending horse behind such other horses as in their judgmentit interfered with, or they may place it las

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/query_rules_a..._argument=1543

The stewards at a BC venue should be from a variety of jurisdictions to prevent homer type decisions IMHO; like the other professional sports to keep everything on the up and up.
The jocks and trainers all know what they can get away with out of the gate,so they can demolish a field out of the gate but not have an incidental bump or brush late in a race; makes no sense.

Why not have a panel or group of citizens etc and view the start of the 2014 bc classic and give them options to vote on what is fair or not and see what the results are !

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

That was an embarrassingly bad call, that horse eliminated half the field, looked like a Quarter Horse race at Los Alamitos.

Gross exaggeration of reality.

[parsixfarms]

What are the rules? Since the stewards have been given more discretion and not adjudicated these matters under "a foul is a foul" rule, I've always thought the rule was whether a horse was deprived a chance to achieve a maximum placing. (That certainly seemed to be the case with Shared Belief and, to a greater degree, Moreno given his style of running.) To state that they are viewing these matters under a "where they were reasonably expected to finish" standard is scary. Now the stewards are handicappers as well? On a day where one longshot after another outperformed where they were generally expected to finish, I don't want the stewards determining who are hopeless horses and which ones are not.

A couple of other thoughts: What Garcia did yesterday was essentially the same thing that Calvin Borel did in the 2013 Kentucky Oaks and that was generally panned as a bush-league move.

The California stewards suspended Victor Espinoza for his ride in the Awesome Again and leave this incident alone. Where's the consistency?

[Arletta]

"Dear California Horse Racing Board,

While your stewards failed to find the causality in the chain reaction of one horse crashing into several others during the start of North America’s richest race – the Breeders’ Cup Classic – their inexplicable inaction certainly will have an affect on the sport you’re supposed to watch guard. But since you have already failed miserably at calculating how bettors, the lifeblood of Thoroughbred racing, are already leaving in droves or betting far less, I guess no one should be surprised by your widespread ineptitude."


http://www.horseracingnation.com/blo...isgraceful_123

[Benny]

Originally Posted by Arletta

"Dear California Horse Racing Board,

While your stewards failed to find the causality in the chain reaction of one horse crashing into several others during the start of North America’s richest race – the Breeders’ Cup Classic – their inexplicable inaction certainly will have an affect on the sport you’re supposed to watch guard. But since you have already failed miserably at calculating how bettors, the lifeblood of Thoroughbred racing, are already leaving in droves or betting far less, I guess no one should be surprised by your widespread ineptitude."


http://www.horseracingnation.com/blo...isgraceful_123

Laura - I firmly believe that stewards should be appointed from a non jurisdctional pool of the best stewards nominated by the BC, so there is no taint possible from home town stewards who all agree that their local trainers not at fault. Would the Super bowl or World series have "homer" officials chosen to officiate. ? There should be no question of possible taint, which has occurred in this case. PERIOD.

[gamblin4ever]

The Stewards should be graded throughout the year just like in the NFL and MLB, then top 5 stewards are picked to work the Breeders Cup.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

The Stewards should be graded throughout the year just like in the NFL and MLB, then top 5 stewards are picked to work the Breeders Cup.

[10 pnt move up]

I heard there were quite a few boos when Bayern came back to the winners circle.

[Benny]

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

The Stewards should be graded throughout the year just like in the NFL and MLB, then top 5 stewards are picked to work the Breeders Cup.

My point exactly This excuse of thats the way the cali stewards always judge this type of incident is piss poor, as,is "bad racing luck". If the BC wants to be taken seriously as a sport, thry need to operate at the highest level with no possible question of malfesance to the viewing public.

[gamblin4ever]

I had nothing on the race,but per the stewards, the incident at the beginning of the race had nothing to do with the outcome. Then why have an inquiry to look at the start?

Yesterday in the Goldikova Stakes, they DQ'd the 5 & 6 horses for interferring but not the 1 horse,who came in also from the rear view they showed of the stretch. I have just as much luck hitting the Lotto as winning on horses with those stewards... Lol