Turf Classic

Any thoughts on this race??????? I really don't know who is going. I guess English Channel, Shirroco, The Tin Man and Hurrican Run. Anyone know any info on this race?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Any thoughts on this race??????? I really don't know who is going. I guess English Channel, Shirroco, The Tin Man and Hurrican Run. Anyone know any info on this race?

It was last week.

Originally Posted by philcski

It was last week.

What???? It is a Breeders Cup race. That isn't run until Nov 4th.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What???? It is a Breeders Cup race. That isn't run until Nov 4th.

The Turf Classic is at Belmont- you mean the BC Turf?

Field is definitely in flux. I've heard Hurricane Run will NOT run, that's not confirmed though.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What???? It is a Breeders Cup race. That isn't run until Nov 4th.

The Turf Classic was run last week at Belmont . From what I read the only top Euro that is fairly definite for the BC Turf is Shirroco. Hurricane and Dylan out. The Arc winner, runner up, and Deep Impact out. If the turf is firm, Shirroco can be tossed. Looks like the Americans should have a good showing this year.

[tycharles01]

Love to get some nice odds on Cacique(6/1) in this 1

The Tin Man will not run the 1/2mile in 5 yrs like the Arlington Race and EC just does not have it

[GPK]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Love to get some nice odds on Cacique(6/1) in this 1

The Tin Man will not run the 1/2mile in 5 yrs like the Arlington Race and EC just does not have it

just curious.....why doesn't EC have it?

[Linny]

EC didn't beat much last week. The two Euro fillies were decent but hardly G1 runners. The Irish colt (Frosty Giant?) was unproven in Europe but looked like he could have won the thing had he not been squeezed in the lane. I don't think anyone thinks Icy Atlantic and Interpatation are G1 turf routers.
This is usually one of my favorite divisions and the best BC race but this year I'm bored with it. Last year I hit the superfecta, this year, I may pass the race.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Linny

EC didn't beat much last week. The two Euro fillies were decent but hardly G1 runners. The Irish colt (Frosty Giant?) was unproven in Europe but looked like he could have won the thing had he not been squeezed in the lane. I don't think anyone thinks Icy Atlantic and Interpatation are G1 turf routers.
This is usually one of my favorite divisions and the best BC race but this year I'm bored with it. Last year I hit the superfecta, this year, I may pass the race.

so...you are judging EC just on last week alone?? There is not a bigger EC fan in the world than me, but in no way was I about to get excited about last weeks race either. But he has run some very strong races this year.

[tycharles01]

Well has not been looking good beside that big race he just had LOL. In the Arlington did not look that great I know he was bumped at the start

Last Race He has a rabbit and 2 females, and 2 horses that could not win Grade 3 races. I know it was just a prep but come on

By all means tho please support him, all it does is raise the price on the winner CACIQUE

[GPK]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Well has not been looking good beside that big race he just had LOL. In the Arlington did not look that great I know he was bumped at the start

Last Race He has a rabbit and 2 females, and 2 horses that could not win Grade 3 races. I know it was just a prep but come on

By all means tho please support him, all it does is raise the price on the winner CACIQUE

Sooooooo...him beating Cacique in the Woodford and the UN makes EC what???

[SniperSB23]

Confirmed:
Shirocco
English Channel
Cacique
The Tin Man
TH Approval

Speculation:
Go Deputy
Ace
Revved Up
Embossed
Relaxed Gesture
Better Talk Now
Silver Whistle
Ivan Denisovich
Cosmonaut

[tycharles01]

Lets agree on 1 thing tho

NO WAY in HELL does

The Tin Man win this race

[GPK]

Originally Posted by tycharles01

Lets agree on 1 thing tho

NO WAY in HELL does

The Tin Man win this race

I agree...all out in his last to hold off TH Approval. If TTM had run those same fractions in the Million, EC and Cacique both would have been kind enough to stop and offer him milk and cookies as they strolled on by him.

I have nothing against The Tin Man...or Cacique...or any turf horse really. My loyalties have been with EC since I first saw him in person last year at Colonial. I had seen him race prior, but it wasn't until I saw him race live that I became the huge fan I am now.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Ace

????????

If you hear anything, let me know, okay? I've heard nothing (... and you know i look every day).

Red Rocks might come over for the Turf.....

[Thunder Gulch]

It doesn't appear as if a large Euro contingent is making the trip, so I'd favor the best of the bunch in Shirocco. I bet him last year because he loved the soft stuff and there was a lot of rain leading up to the BC. If it comes up even a touch soft, that's the likely choice, though not at the generous price of 2005. Last year I declared that English Channel was the most likely winner of the 2006 BC, but not ready. After his last out, definately one to include. This is one of my favorite races on the card every year, and it is always a tough betting race, so price is paramount.

[tycharles01]

Only way Shirocco wins is it it rains the whole week before the race and the turf is soft, anything that resembles firm and the horse could crumble

and EC beating him was earlier in the year, I think Cacique is hitting his stride. If this race was in April I would have said EC as the winner but its not April. Dont get me wrong EC will hit the board or 4th at worse but wont win this race