4/1-3 (CD): KY Derby Future Wager ~ Final Pool

[Kasept]

KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER ~ POOL 4

1 American Pioneer 50-1
2 Cherry Wine 20-1
3 Creator 30-1
4 Cupid 10-1
5 Danzing Candy 12-1
6 Dazzling Gem 50-1

7 Destin 12-1
8 Exaggerator 20-1
9 Flexibility 50-1
10 Gun Runner 15-1
11 Lani 50-1
12 Matt King Coal 50-1

13 Mo Tom 15-1
14 Mohaymen 7-2
15 Mor Spirit 12-1
16 Nyquist 8-1
17 Outwork 30-1
18 Shagaf 30-1

19 Suddenbreakingnews 30-1
20 Swipe 30-1
21 Tom's Ready 20-1
22 Whitmore 20-1
23 Zulu 30-1
24 mutuel field (all others) 10-1

[Kasept]

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[Kasept]

1 American Pioneer 50-1 84-1
2 Cherry Wine 20-1 55-1
3 Creator 30-1 58-1
4 Cupid 10-1 11-1
5 Danzing Candy 12-1 16-1
6 Dazzling Gem 50-1 99-1

7 Destin 12-1 16-1
8 Exaggerator 20-1 27-1
9 Flexibility 50-1 81-1
10 Gun Runner 15-1 13-1
11 Lani 50-1 25-1
12 Matt King Coal 50-1 44-1

13 Mo Tom 15-1 17-1
14 Mohaymen 7-2 8-1
15 Mor Spirit 12-1 11-1
16 Nyquist 8-1 3-1
17 Outwork 30-1 30-1
18 Shagaf 30-1 17-1

19 Suddenbreakingnews 30-1 34-1
20 Swipe 30-1 29-1
21 Tom's Ready 20-1 70-1
22 Whitmore 20-1 33-1
23 Zulu 30-1 34-1
24 mutuel field (all others) 10-1 10-1

[cakes44]

What are the lowest odds any individual horse has ended up at on any of the futures pools?

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by cakes44

What are the lowest odds any individual horse has ended up at on any of the futures pools?

Point Given, 2-1
Empire Make, 5-2

I think those were the only two under 3-1. (both in the final pool of that year)

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Point Given, 2-1
Empire Make, 5-2

I think those were the only two under 3-1. (both in the final pool of that year)

Does anyone here dare compare Nyquist to Pont Given??

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

1 American Pioneer 50-1 84-1
2 Cherry Wine 20-1 55-1
3 Creator 30-1 58-1
4 Cupid 10-1 11-1
5 Danzing Candy 12-1 16-1
6 Dazzling Gem 50-1 99-1

7 Destin 12-1 16-1
8 Exaggerator 20-1 27-1
9 Flexibility 50-1 81-1
10 Gun Runner 15-1 13-1
11 Lani 50-1 25-1
12 Matt King Coal 50-1 44-1

13 Mo Tom 15-1 17-1
14 Mohaymen 7-2 8-1
15 Mor Spirit 12-1 11-1
16 Nyquist 8-1 3-1
17 Outwork 30-1 30-1
18 Shagaf 30-1 17-1

19 Suddenbreakingnews 30-1 34-1
20 Swipe 30-1 29-1
21 Tom's Ready 20-1 70-1
22 Whitmore 20-1 33-1
23 Zulu 30-1 34-1
24 mutuel field (all others) 10-1 10-1

Whoever wins Wood will be the only underlay. And wood has not been a good Derby indicator

[Benny]

I believe the reason Point Given lost the KD is that he was undertrained, with hopes of havinga triple crown horse after Baffert had come up short before. think he said as much.-------------- so much for that


Baffert said Point Given, ridden by Gary Stevens, was too close to a lightning pace in the Derby.

"In the Preakness, he let the horse decide his own pace, get into his stride," Baffert said. "I think he'll do the same thing in the Belmont."
[url]http://amarillo.com/stories/2001/06/09/spo_pointgiven.shtml#.VwKECaQrLNM[/They did

-- Point Given appeared to be running on a treadmill. Earlier in the morning, he had reared and tossed his exercise rider.

''He never felt comfortable out there,'' Stevens said. ''Maybe it took something out of him.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/06/sports/horse-racing-monarchos-makes-his-point-and-roars-to-victory-in-the-derby.html]