Maximum Security

[Minidar]

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Minidar

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

Kindly direct us to your similar pre-race thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Kindly direct us to your similar pre-race thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

(I'm still waiting)

[jms62]

To me Hidden Scroll never looked comfortable in that race. I would not be suprised to hear of a physical issue.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by jms62

To me Hidden Scroll never looked comfortable in that race. I would not be suprised to hear of a physical issue.

After he broke, if the kid went on with him he wouldn’t have got into that uncomfortable position. Make the lead and then slow it down, not choke the life out of him in a bad spot.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by jms62

To me Hidden Scroll never looked comfortable in that race. I would not be suprised to hear of a physical issue.

I agree with this. I really hope not though you because he could still be the best of this group.
I'd love to see him healthy and train up to the Preakness. Play no games and go up front. He would be so dangerous, fresh.....

[moses]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I agree with this. I really hope not though you because he could still be the best of this group.
I'd love to see him healthy and train up to the Preakness. Play no games and go up front. He would be so dangerous, fresh.....

Hidden Scroll in the Preakness would be fun. Any indication they’re considering that?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Minidar

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

He also probably didn't know he was trained by a guy winning at almost 50% at a premier meet

[moses]

Originally Posted by Minidar

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

No handicapper is perfect. I’m sure most experts weighed the possibility and just thought a 49 second opening half mile was very unlikely and that even a slightly faster pace would have set up Code of Honor or Bourbon War or Harvey Wallbanger a little better. But it turns out, Maximum Security was able to slow the entire beginning of the race down and then finish everyone off. Great strategy by them. I’m not sure they’ll be able to repeat it in the derby. But maybe Maximum Security can finish strong even with a faster pace. We’ll see.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Minidar

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

If it were up to me you'd be banned for this nonsense.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Minidar

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

So this "golden wagering opportunity" came up AFTER the start of the race?

[moses]

Originally Posted by cakes44

So this "golden wagering opportunity" came up AFTER the start of the race?

lol - I thought that too at first - but he’s talking about Hidden Scroll’s start in the Fountain of Youth.

In the Florida Derby thread, I laid out the possibility that Max Sec would be able to run away with the race since Scroll was planning to rate. Then I basically disregarded it and said I was picking Bourbon War. I don’t remember Minidar chiming in. Maybe he could have swayed everyone’s opinion and we’d all be counting our fat stacks of cash right now. Very selfish of him.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by moses

lol - I thought that too at first - but he’s talking about Hidden Scroll’s start in the Fountain of Youth.

In the Florida Derby thread, I laid out the possibility that Max Sec would be able to run away with the race since Scroll was planning to rate. Then I basically disregarded it and said I was picking Bourbon War. I don’t remember Minidar chiming in. Maybe he could have swayed everyone’s opinion and we’d all be counting our fat stacks of cash right now. Very selfish of him.

Ahh, it's all coming together now. The man is a genius!

[moses]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Ahh, it's all coming together now. The man is a genius!

We’re going to be reading about him this week when CBS tries to dupe people into signing up for sportsline: “This guy tossed the two favorites to nail “longshot” Maximum Security in the Florida Derby. He made thousands off that race alone. Now sign up for sportsline and see what he thinks about the Santa Anita Derby, Blue Grass, and Wood Memorial.”

[jms62]

Originally Posted by moses

We’re going to be reading about him this week when CBS tries to dupe people into signing up for sportsline: “This guy tossed the two favorites to nail “longshot” Maximum Security in the Florida Derby. He made thousands off that race alone. Now sign up for sportsline and see what he thinks about the Santa Anita Derby, Blue Grass, and Wood Memorial.”

If they do it would be outright Fraud his first choice was Burbon War and second Code of Honor. Maximum Security was his 6th choice.

[Seattleallstar]

easy to say now after what we saw as is always the case, if they just let Hidden Scroll run who knows what would of happened. But it looks like Max would of still won

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

easy to say now after what we saw as is always the case, if they just let Hidden Scroll run who knows what would of happened. But it looks like Max would of still won

I don't agree with this.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I don't agree with this.

I wish he would of won or steamed up the pace so that Code of Honor would of swooped by. They really messed with this horse, I am glad to hear they will be going back to the drawing board, I wouldn't even consider a Triple Crown race until he passes a few hoops first.

[richard burch]

He looked good but running in optional claimers is a little "light" for me.