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Old 11-15-2006, 03:11 PM
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Does anyone on this board think David Wells or Kenny Rogers belong in the hall of fame?
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:14 PM
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Does anyone on this board think David Wells or Kenny Rogers belong in the hall of fame?
Only if they pay admission.
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:19 PM
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Only if they pay admission.
Sniper here is the reason i posed such a ridiculous question.David Wells has either 4 or 6 more wins than Catfish Hunter and 16 less losses.Kenny Rogers is similar and both have a better percentage than Catfish.Wells pitched a perfect game as did Catfish and has i think 1 less championship than Hunter.I agree neither Wells or Rogers belongs in.
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Old 11-15-2006, 04:36 PM
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Sniper here is the reason i posed such a ridiculous question.David Wells has either 4 or 6 more wins than Catfish Hunter and 16 less losses.Kenny Rogers is similar and both have a better percentage than Catfish.Wells pitched a perfect game as did Catfish and has i think 1 less championship than Hunter.I agree neither Wells or Rogers belongs in.
Hunter did win 20 games for 5 straight years at least. Baseball-reference.com uses four different measurements of a players accomplishment and then compares each of them to HOF level.

Black Ink - average HOF is 40
Gray Ink - average HOF is 185
HOF Standards - average HOF is 50
HOF Monitor - > 100 means likely HOFer

Here are Hunter's numbers:
BI: 20
GI: 151
HOFS: 42
HOFM: 131.5

Here are Rogers' numbers:
BI: 2
GI: 87
HOFS: 30
HOFM: 66

And Wells:
BI: 24
GI: 123
HOFS: 40
HOFM: 88

So Hunter is far below average for a HOF but according to their index he does belong. Rogers isn't even close, Wells is close but still has a ways to go which is unlikely at his age.
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Old 11-15-2006, 04:45 PM
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Hunter did win 20 games for 5 straight years at least. Baseball-reference.com uses four different measurements of a players accomplishment and then compares each of them to HOF level.

Black Ink - average HOF is 40
Gray Ink - average HOF is 185
HOF Standards - average HOF is 50
HOF Monitor - > 100 means likely HOFer

Here are Hunter's numbers:
BI: 20
GI: 151
HOFS: 42
HOFM: 131.5

Here are Rogers' numbers:
BI: 2
GI: 87
HOFS: 30
HOFM: 66

And Wells:
BI: 24
GI: 123
HOFS: 40
HOFM: 88

So Hunter is far below average for a HOF but according to their index he does belong. Rogers isn't even close, Wells is close but still has a ways to go which is unlikely at his age.
I agree...both good pitchers but not HOFers. Besides which the next few years are gonna be crowded with candidates...most much more deserving!
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Old 11-15-2006, 05:03 PM
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Catfish Hunter is right up there with Tinkers and Evers as the most undeserving players with plaques in Cooperstown.
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