A question on Easy Goer...

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Does anybody know what Beyer Figure he got in his Gotham win?
How did it match up with Discreet Cat.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Does anybody know what Beyer Figure he got in his Gotham win?
How did it match up with Discreet Cat.

176...........

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

176...........

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

176...........

Ha Ha...but seriously...what was it?

[blackthroatedwind]

Beyer figures weren't public until the Racing Times which was around 1990 and that was 1989. I will see if Beyer knows off hand. I think they have said Sunday Silence and Easy Goer ran numbers in the low 120s when they were good.

Discreet Cat has a LONG way to go to even be considered in their league.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Beyer figures weren't public until the Racing Times which was around 1990 and that was 1989. I will see if Beyer knows off hand. I think they have said Sunday Silence and Easy Goer ran numbers in the low 120s when they were good.

Discreet Cat has a LONG way to go to even be considered in their league.

it been so long since we've had a consensus great horse, that we forget.
thats why we all go gaga whenever a horse even comes close to greatness. we'd like to have one to watch and appreciate, but this is about as close as it gets and like you say its really not all that close.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Beyer figures weren't public until the Racing Times which was around 1990 and that was 1989. I will see if Beyer knows off hand. I think they have said Sunday Silence and Easy Goer ran numbers in the low 120s when they were good.

Discreet Cat has a LONG way to go to even be considered in their league.

You're buggin'.. They were faster than the fastest horse in the history of ever?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're buggin'.. They were faster than the fastest horse in the history of ever?

yeah, what he said.

i think.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're buggin'.. They were faster than the fastest horse in the history of ever?

Heres a fact that might put that race into perspective(DC's race).
In the history of Aqueduct, in all the dirt miles ever run, the three fastest miles are:
1)Tie between Discreet Cat and Easy Goer
3) Tie between Dispersal and Quiet American
5) Tie between Badge of Silver and Congaree and Silver Train.

Badge's place in 1:33 flat was the co 5th fastest mile ever run at Aqueduct.
Again, not detracting from DC's obvious great talent, but does that fact not indicate that perhaps the track was "just a little juiced up" when Badge is running as fast as Congaree ever did?

[Slewbopper]

[quote=blackthroatedwind]Beyer figures weren't public until the Racing Times which was around 1990 and that was 1989. I will see if Beyer knows off hand. I think they have said Sunday Silence and Easy Goer ran numbers in the low 120s when they were good.

QUOTE]
When were they not good?
Combined record...34-23-10-1...never out of the money. And you must consider that four of those second place finishes were against each other

[MISTERGEE]

Was There At Gulfstream. Breeders Cup, Sunday Silence And Easy Goer. One Of Durkins Best Calls Ever. Super Memories Down The Stretch Neck And Neck

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Ha Ha...but seriously...what was it?

Easy got a 176. Cat got a 115. It should be simple. At a mile, each length should be about 1 1/2 Beyer points. Using this formula, Discreet Cat would have been at the 1/16 pole when Easy crossed the finish line. The track conditions have to be considered, though. Who knows? DC might have beaten the Phipps' color bearer that day.

The bottom line is that he did not run as fast as EG. Holy Bull would have smoked both of them at a mile in November..

[JJP]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Easy got a 176. Cat got a 115. It should be simple. At a mile, each length should be about 1 1/2 Beyer points. Using this formula, Discreet Cat would have been at the 1/16 pole when Easy crossed the finish line. The track conditions have to be considered, though. Who knows? DC might have beaten the Phipps' color bearer that day.

The bottom line is that he did not run as fast as EG. Holy Bull would have smoked both of them at a mile in November..

I guess that would make Sunday Silence about a 180 then since the only time he lost to EG was at the irrelevant distance.

Holy Bull? He'd better hope Cigar wasn't in the same race as him.

Originally Posted by JJP

I guess that would make Sunday Silence about a 180 then since the only time he lost to EG was at the irrelevant distance.

Holy Bull? He'd better hope Cigar wasn't in the same race as him.

What have you been smoking?
Irrelevant distance? You ever even see that race? Distance made no difference. Easy had him the whole way anytime he wanted him.
Now what made the difference? The difference was that they had tight security on the barn SS was in before the race and ole Doc Harthill couldnt stop by.
I think that theory is lot better than yours. A length, a nose and a neck as opposed to the length of the stretch?
The program should have read, Harthill off. ****, Easy Goer couldnt even have Lasix and Harthill's working on SS and doing his preraces. everyplace except NY that was, and he got his ass handed to him.

[King Glorious]

This was a great thread from many years ago. Look through it to see some of the Beyer figures some of the better horses from the late 80s and 90s ran. Really good thread.

Rollo, if you have it anywhere, can you tell me what King Glorious ran in his career?