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Old 01-22-2007, 10:06 AM
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Man, is this man on fire or what. He is winning at a 27% rate at Gulfstream. I am so happy for this man. I loved wathing him ride in Maryland. And it is great that he took the chance to move out of Maryland. Extremely happy with his success.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:07 AM
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Man, is this man on fire or what. He is winning at a 27% rate at Gulfstream. I am so happy for this man. I loved wathing him ride in Maryland. And it is great that he took the chance to move out of Maryland. Extremely happy with his success.
I'm just glad I'll get to see him ride next week when we're down at GP.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:11 AM
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Man, is this man on fire or what. He is winning at a 27% rate at Gulfstream. I am so happy for this man. I loved wathing him ride in Maryland. And it is great that he took the chance to move out of Maryland. Extremely happy with his success.
Heez da best, man. If I had a horse about to run in the biggest race of his/her life, my list of jockeys is one person long.

A super guy on top of it. You can't find a nicer guy, let alone jockey, than Prado.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:18 AM
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I havent had the chance to meet Prado. But I have come to respect the man from watching him deal with the Barbaro issue.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:18 AM
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all i hear is praises for edgar and slams on ramon. ramons definately the better rider in my book. ive seen edgar make as many bone-head decisions as any1 on the main circuit. edgar is apparently a classy person and very likeable but overrated as a rider in my book. btw i dont hear any ramon bashing after this past week
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:21 AM
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I like both Jocks as riders. I havent met either of them so I cannot comment on them. But I am just happy that the move from Maryland has paid off for Prado. He could have stayed in Maryland and won his 500 races a year. But the man wanted more and is getting it. Very happy for him. Hopefully the same success will happen for Ramon.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:22 AM
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#1 Prado
#2 John V
Pretty close btween those two for my money

Bejarano is gaining ground. Hard to believe he's only 25 years old.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:27 AM
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#1 Prado
#2 John V
Pretty close btween those two for my money

Bejarano is gaining ground. Hard to believe he's only 25 years old.
#1 in all the world these days-dettori
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:06 PM
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#1 in all the world these days-dettori
Sicne you reside in my old stompong grounds I will make this pleasant....

Dettori is not the #1 rider......this guy is hand fed the TOP mounts overseas....yes he is skilled....but definetly not the best...not even top 3....but if you need a reminder go back and watch his ride on Swain...
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:23 AM
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all i hear is praises for edgar and slams on ramon. ramons definately the better rider in my book. ive seen edgar make as many bone-head decisions as any1 on the main circuit. edgar is apparently a classy person and very likeable but overrated as a rider in my book. btw i dont hear any ramon bashing after this past week
Hey Tracy Hebert won alot of races this week at Delta!!! He's better than Prado now!
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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Hey Tracy Hebert won alot of races this week at Delta!!! He's better than Prado now!
wow that was intelligent
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:29 AM
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wow that was intelligent
Pot meet kettle.

Prado > Ramon
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:27 AM
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Him and Gomez are the best. I think there is little doubt left.

Can anyone finish (and screw Gander out of a score yesterday) better than Garrett Gomez?
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:07 PM
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Hey Tracy Hebert won alot of races this week at Delta!!! He's better than Prado now!

Easy on the Hebert comments my friend.......if you even mention one abd word about Carl Woodley , me and you are gonna drop the gloves
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:15 PM
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Easy on the Hebert comments my friend.......if you even mention one abd word about Carl Woodley , me and you are gonna drop the gloves
You're going to fight me over what I say about another man?



Ok dude...
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:28 AM
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all i hear is praises for edgar and slams on ramon. ramons definately the better rider in my book. ive seen edgar make as many bone-head decisions as any1 on the main circuit. edgar is apparently a classy person and very likeable but overrated as a rider in my book. btw i dont hear any ramon bashing after this past week
The " slam " on Dominguez was for an indefensible decision, one that even he admitted after the race was a gross error in judgement, and it underscored that he is not the superstar that some seem to believe he is. Nobody ever said he isn't a qualified rider. He is, however, a rider who makes somewhat baffling choices at times and seems to find trouble when there was simply no need to do so.

His big week in NY is a function of the live mounts he gets. The major reason this is the case is because other than Eibar Coa ( and perhaps Mike Luzzi ) the NY colony is extremely weak. Since you think Ramon Dominguez is better than Edgar Prado you must be very confused as to why Ramon flees town the second Edgar comes back. It must be out of respect for Edgar and a desire to not embarrass him.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:33 AM
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The " slam " on Dominguez was for an indefensible decision, one that even he admitted after the race was a gross error in judgement, and it underscored that he is not the superstar that some seem to believe he is. Nobody ever said he isn't a qualified rider. He is, however, a rider who makes somewhat baffling choices at times and seems to find trouble when there was simply no need to do so.

His big week in NY is a function of the live mounts he gets. The major reason this is the case is because other than Eibar Coa ( and perhaps Mike Luzzi ) the NY colony is extremely weak. Since you think Ramon Dominguez is better than Edgar Prado you must be very confused as to why Ramon flees town the second Edgar comes back. It must be out of respect for Edgar and a desire to not embarrass him.
hmmmmmmmm mike smith is weak and not accomplished huh? i guess guys like santos and bridgmo cant ride wortha lick either huh LOL? i also suppose the only reason ramon is given"live" mounts is becuz his name was randomly drawn outta hat 1 day
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:36 AM
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hmmmmmmmm mike smith is weak and not accomplished huh? i guess guys like santos and bridgmo cant ride wortha lick either huh LOL? i also suppose the only reason ramon is given"live" mounts is becuz his name was randomly drawn outta hat 1 day
If Ramon is so good like you're claiming then why isn't he on the big circuit? (saratoga, gulfstream)
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:43 AM
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hmmmmmmmm mike smith is weak and not accomplished huh? i guess guys like santos and bridgmo cant ride wortha lick either huh LOL? i also suppose the only reason ramon is given"live" mounts is becuz his name was randomly drawn outta hat 1 day

You don't follow NY racing at all....do you?

Mike Smith has been absolutely horrendous since coming back from the West Coast and " Mike Smith off " has become virtually an automatic play. It's obvious you haven't seen him ride but you could have at least looked at his stats. I'll give you a hint....they are horrendous.

Jose Santos is also riding flat out awful right now and has the numbers to prove it. He is getting left with virtually every mount and getting in trouble just as often. Shawn Bridgemohan, despite hiring NY's best agent in Drew Mollica is also struggling for mounts and winning at under a 10% clip. His riding has been less than stellar.
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:04 PM
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all i hear is praises for edgar and slams on ramon. ramons definately the better rider in my book. ive seen edgar make as many bone-head decisions as any1 on the main circuit. edgar is apparently a classy person and very likeable but overrated as a rider in my book. btw i dont hear any ramon bashing after this past week

Prado and Ramon are in 2 different classes. One guy rides in the top meets and is successful....one guy is forced to ride at 3rd class meets and comes up for air to pick up scraps when the top guys go away.

As far as this week.....Ramon is riding at AQU during a time of bad racing and is getting first call mounts....sure he is gonna be successful at a meet when he is riding against the likes of Diane Nelson and Andrew Lakeman.....
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