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Old 02-06-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Nobiz takes lead in Dispatch Derby Poll

With a cagey win in last Saturday's Holy Bull Stakes at Gulfstream Park, Nobiz Like Shobiz moved back into the top spot and assumed a commanding lead in the points through week three of the Racing Dispatch Derby Poll. Four new faces entered the top twenty following the races this past weekend.

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Old 02-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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Looks pretty good.

The only horse in the top 7 that wouldn't be in my own personal top 7 is Circular Quay.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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Adore the Gold while impressive in Swale should not be that high. Believe Forefathers ran more impressive race as he was between horses for most of races and made nice run against the grain to get second.
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Adore the Gold while impressive in Swale should not be that high. Believe Forefathers ran more impressive race as he was between horses for most of races and made nice run against the grain to get second.
Joe,

I think Adore the Gold is the goods.. I put him up near the top on my ballot. Can go, can duel, can stalk.. Got the benefit of GP Saturday, but is far from one dimensional. Nice colt.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:54 PM
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I think Adore the Gold is the goods.. I put him up near the top on my ballot. Can go, can duel, can stalk.. Got the benefit of GP Saturday, but is far from one dimensional. Nice colt.
No doubting his quality, just questioning if he will go mile and a quarter. Do love connections though. Will never hesitate to use Gorham horses especially at Spa
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:58 PM
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No doubting his quality, just questioning if he will go mile and a quarter. Do love connections though. Will never hesitate to use Gorham horses especially at Spa
Here's a link to the mp.3 of Gorham with us on ATRAB yesterday.. He and Mr. Murphy appear rather psyched about him:

http://www.attheracesandbeyond.com/stream/2507a.mp3 (Starts at bottom of hour, about the 30:00 minute mark if you want to skip to it..)
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:44 PM
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Looks pretty good.

The only horse in the top 7 that wouldn't be in my own personal top 7 is Circular Quay.

Yeah, he should be a top 3
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based on what?
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:55 PM
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his 3-2-0 record in 5 starts...

2 Graded Stakes wins (including a G.1)
2 Graded Stakes placings (including a 2nd in the BC Juvy)


... how many horses have a better resume? I know some believe he may have distance limitations, I don't think that's been proven at all yet. Maybe he doesn't improve as a 3YO, I think he will and I think he's got to be considered at least a threat in the Derby(as of now), if not a top contender to win it.
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I dont like him that much. Hes a nice horse but Im not sold yet, he was just lugging in too badly in the stretch.
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Circular Quay reminds me a lot of his mother......I thought his race in the Juvenile was lousy and I just don't see him getting much better with age or added distance.
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I was surprised to see Adore The Gold rank so high as well. I think the numbers are fairly accurate... Scat Daddy drops, as he should, with another somewhat dissapointing effort. Ravel, who was awesome in the Sham, moved up too.

Perhaps the one aspect that really made me double-take was Scat Daddy's 10 first place votes... a lot jumped ship from Street Sense. I don't think Nobiz showed us he was any better than last year yet - but that's why we have 20 voters!
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Don't know if I'm supposed to release my ballot, but on the left is my Top 20 this week followed by the total-final... (I actually forgot Day Pass in my 20 accidently..)


MY BALLOT/FINAL TALLY

HARD SPUN 1 Nobiz Like Shobiz (10)
NOBIZ 2 Street Sense (3)
ADORE THE GOLD 3 Hard Spun (1)
NOTIONAL 4 Ravel
RAVEL 5 Circular Quay
STORM IN MAY 6 Great Hunter (1)
BELGRAVIA 7 Any Given Saturday (2)
MINEFIELD 8 Notional
LIQUIDITY 9 Stormello
GREAT HUNTER 10 Liquidity
C P West 11 Adore The Gold
EXHALE 12 Exhale
BIRDBIRDISTHEWORD13 Birdbirdistheword (1)
STORMELLO 14 Day Pass
CIRCULAR QUAY 15 Drums Of Thunder
CURLIN 16 Belgravia
TIAGO 17 Scat Daddy
DRUMS OF THUNDER 18 Lawrence The Roman
CAME TO PASS T-19 E Z Warrior
ARCATA T-19 Spin Master
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:23 PM
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Don't know if I'm supposed to release my ballot, but on the left is my Top 20 this week followed by the total-final... (I actually forgot Day Pass in my 20 accidently..)


MY BALLOT/FINAL TALLY

HARD SPUN 1 Nobiz Like Shobiz (10)
NOBIZ 2 Street Sense (3)
ADORE THE GOLD 3 Hard Spun (1)
NOTIONAL 4 Ravel
RAVEL 5 Circular Quay
STORM IN MAY 6 Great Hunter (1)
BELGRAVIA 7 Any Given Saturday (2)
MINEFIELD 8 Notional
LIQUIDITY 9 Stormello
GREAT HUNTER 10 Liquidity
C P West 11 Adore The Gold
EXHALE 12 Exhale
BIRDBIRDISTHEWORD13 Birdbirdistheword (1)
STORMELLO 14 Day Pass
CIRCULAR QUAY 15 Drums Of Thunder
CURLIN 16 Belgravia
TIAGO 17 Scat Daddy
DRUMS OF THUNDER 18 Lawrence The Roman
CAME TO PASS T-19 E Z Warrior
ARCATA T-19 Spin Master
Kinda like this Sheriff's runner, needs to break maiden real soon though!
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:25 PM
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He broke his maiden last time....via DQ.

IMO, he could develop into a very solid horse....he's just not KY Derby material though.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:30 PM
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No Street Sense anywhere, Steve?

I do like though, that you got Storm in May up there -- he looked really nice at GP....I'd like to see him around again soon.
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No Street Sense anywhere, Steve?

I do like though, that you got Storm in May up there -- he looked really nice at GP....I'd like to see him around again soon.
Street Sense off the list for now until he runs.. Any Given Saturday isn't for me until I see him at 3.. Scat Daddy was never for me..
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Don't know if I'm supposed to release my ballot, but on the left is my Top 20 this week followed by the total-final... (I actually forgot Day Pass in my 20 accidently..)


MY BALLOT/FINAL TALLY

HARD SPUN 1 Nobiz Like Shobiz (10)
NOBIZ 2 Street Sense (3)
ADORE THE GOLD 3 Hard Spun (1)
NOTIONAL 4 Ravel
RAVEL 5 Circular Quay
STORM IN MAY 6 Great Hunter (1)
BELGRAVIA 7 Any Given Saturday (2)
MINEFIELD 8 Notional
LIQUIDITY 9 Stormello
GREAT HUNTER 10 Liquidity
C P West 11 Adore The Gold
EXHALE 12 Exhale
BIRDBIRDISTHEWORD13 Birdbirdistheword (1)
STORMELLO 14 Day Pass
CIRCULAR QUAY 15 Drums Of Thunder
CURLIN 16 Belgravia
TIAGO 17 Scat Daddy
DRUMS OF THUNDER 18 Lawrence The Roman
CAME TO PASS T-19 E Z Warrior
ARCATA T-19 Spin Master


I'm guessing you're not putting much weight on what this class did as 2YO's. I'm not versed enough on many of these to put a top 20 list together, but I think I'd have many of the same... maybe not the same(similar) order though! Hard Spun has to prove himself (to me) in his next race before I put him very high.
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I was wondering who the (1) beside Hard Spun's name was. Well done, Steve.
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Hard Spun has to prove himself (to me) in his next race before I put him very high.
Zip,

That's interesting because to me, Hard Spun has been the most impressive of the colts that have run at three, has 2yo foundation/substance and upside yet.. I think he's the best thing out there by a wide margin.

2 year old form is increasingly meaningless to me as a Derby indicator other than getting at least 2-3 starts in...
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