Anyone See the Risen Star?

[randallscott35]

Circular Quay off the board. Notional wins....Didn't see it.

slew's tizzy clipped heels in the stretch and threw jockey, it did impact other horses. *back to lurking*

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by corywah

slew's tizzy clipped heels in the stretch and threw jockey, it did impact other horses. *back to lurking*

Don't be a lurker there dude, was Notional impressive?

Notional was impressive, I had Zanjero but he was 2nd best. Not sure what happened to circular quay, he might have been affected by the thrown jockey. Im not a dude

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by corywah

Notional was impressive, I had Zanjero but he was 2nd best. Not sure what happened to circular quay, he might have been affected by the thrown jockey. Im not a dude

Haha, sorry.

Finally a chart available.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...&RACE=9&BorP=B

[GPK]

Originally Posted by corywah

Notional was impressive, I had Zanjero but he was 2nd best. Not sure what happened to circular quay, he might have been affected by the thrown jockey. Im not a dude

if thats the case....let me be the first to welcome you

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by T3B

if thats the case....let me be the first to welcome you

haha, I knew that was coming.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by T3B

if thats the case....let me be the first to welcome you

you're creepy, you know that

[Buffymommy]

How did Slew's Tizzy look before that? My nephew liked this horse.

[Kasept]

Notional waqs wonderful today Rand.. Did all O'Neill would want... Grew up a lot. Sat off while outside; moved when asked and fought for lead; looked collared and stayed on between horses before drawing off to win by a couple.

Circular Quay was down inside and marooned. Nowhere to go at the top of the stretch. As is always the problem with horses like him... Bill Kaplan's "W&CGuy" ran very nicely chasing wide and coming on late. Zanjero third but I never really "saw" what he was doing...

Don't know how far Notional wants to stretch, but he's a quality colt and all the way back to his insanely huge debut now...

O'Neill-Reddam and Bill Kaplan... 30% of the Derby field between them? Possible...

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Notional waqs wonderful today Rand.. Did all O'Neill would want... Grew up a lot. Sat off while outside; moved when asked and fought for lead; looked collared and stayed on between horses before drawing off to win by a couple.

Circular Quay was down inside and marooned. Nowhere to go at the top of the stretch. As is always the problem with horses like him... Bill Kaplan's "W&CGuy" ran very nicely chasing wide and coming on late. Zanjero third but I never really "saw" what he was doing...

Don't know how far Notional wants to stretch, but he's a quality colt and all the way back to his insanely huge debut now...

O'Neill-Reddam and Bill Kaplan... 30% of the Derby field between them? Possible...

Awesome, thanks. Thinking maybe this is O'Neill chance after losing Stevie Wonderboy to injury in his 3yr old season.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Circular Quay was down inside and marooned. Nowhere to go at the top of the stretch. As is always the problem with horses like him... Bill Kaplan's "W&CGuy" ran very nicely chasing wide and coming on late. Zanjero third but I never really "saw" what he was doing...

It's hard to say how much run he would have had though before avoiding the 1 after it tossed Graham.

He ran on well to be fifth. Not sure he would have been the winner, but may have made it interesting.....

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's hard to say how much run he would have had though before avoiding the 1 after it tossed Graham. He ran on well to be fifth. Not sure he would have been the winner, but may have made it interesting.....

Interesting for third..

[ddthetide]

any video yet?

Originally Posted by Kasept

Notional waqs wonderful today Rand.. Did all O'Neill would want... Grew up a lot. Sat off while outside; moved when asked and fought for lead; looked collared and stayed on between horses before drawing off to win by a couple.

Circular Quay was down inside and marooned. Nowhere to go at the top of the stretch. As is always the problem with horses like him... Bill Kaplan's "W&CGuy" ran very nicely chasing wide and coming on late. Zanjero third but I never really "saw" what he was doing...

Don't know how far Notional wants to stretch, but he's a quality colt and all the way back to his insanely huge debut now...

O'Neill-Reddam and Bill Kaplan... 30% of the Derby field between them? Possible...

Steve watch the race again if the horse in front of Quay had not have gone down he would have made the race very interesting.On the show(ATRAB) the other day one of your guest made a statement about Con Collins being the daddy of all Irish trainers,definitly a great trainer,I have one name who is daddy of them all, not only in Ireland but possible world wide Vincent O'Brien.

I don't think CQ's backers should be jumping off the bandwagon based on the final results of the Risen Star. This could be a blessing in disguise for his future pool backers.

17-1 and probably going up after finishing off the board. There's a lot of bandwagon chasers in the future pool.

Heading into the future pool I liked Street Sense and Ravel the most, but their odds are going to make them unplayable for me in this pool. (add in the fact that I'm moving half a continent away from the track I'd have to place the future wager at and I'm sitting this future pool out)

NoBiz is a tossout for me as the likely favored singular betting interest. Too many supporters at this point, and to me he looks like a horse I'd love on an off track (Go for Gin and Halo in his pedigree), but probably try to beat as the favorite any other day.

Risen Star winner Notional looks like a steal at 37-1. There will be some late money on him I'm sure, but again the breeding doesn't insprire me for a Derby winner. He was my pick for the Risen Star, but he doesn't fit my Derby profile.

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Circular Quay off the board. Notional wins....Didn't see it.

Circular Quay was cruising in behind leaders and looked as if he would have won easy, until the horse in front of him clipped heels and went down causing Quay to swerve,he is definitly a horse to watch for the derby.

[Cajungator26]

To avoid reading through a million threads, was Teuflesberg scratched because of post position or some other reason? Thanks...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

To avoid reading through a million threads, was Teuflesberg scratched because of post position or some other reason? Thanks...

Hopefully common sense. Otherwise he would have been in that mess of 50-1 and 100-1 shots (that didn't belong in the race in the first place) tiring at the end that almost led to disaster. He can be a good sprinter and maybe will be able to stretch out as he gets older but he is absolutely not a Derby prospect. The owners should be thrilled on getting a horse like him for $7,000 instead of being hellbent on destroying him in the quest for the Derby.