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Old 10-07-2020, 05:37 PM
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Arrow BREEDER'S CUP ~ FIELDS: Sprint, F&M Sprint, T-Sprint, D-Mile







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Old 10-08-2020, 03:08 PM
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Hope there is a rethink and they put Ollie's Candy in the FM Sprint at least as a 2nd preference
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Old 10-12-2020, 12:34 PM
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It may seem a little backwards but I actually think Gamine would have a better chance in the Distaff than in the FM Sprint. She reminds me of Lion Heart.
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:50 PM
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If Gamine was able to run as a 2yo, her career would likely have echoed Chilukki and Indian Blessing. Superior sprinters that were capable at a middle distance (less than 9f).

Lion Heart actually had the same profile. He could not see out a distance at 3 save on the conveyor belt at Monmouth against My Snookie Boy. He ran 1:09+ in his debut and 1:20+ for 7 furlongs in his first 2 starts, but never got a chance to sprint again because he was toast by the fall.
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:25 PM
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Gamine is mediocre at two turns.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:54 AM
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Gamine is mediocre at two turns.
That's a ridiculous comment. She is better going shorter, but still better than almost every horse of her sex going long....and most males too.
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Old 10-21-2020, 08:05 AM
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Michael McCarthy with interesting preliminary decisions on ATR Tuesday for CE CE & SPEECH..

Ce Ce stretches out for the Distaff and Speech cuts back to the F&M Sprint..
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:58 PM
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Michael McCarthy with interesting preliminary decisions on ATR Tuesday for CE CE & SPEECH..

Ce Ce stretches out for the Distaff and Speech cuts back to the F&M Sprint..
I hope they rethink this
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:21 PM
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I hope they rethink this
Yep; is there some stalwart in the FM Sprint or is the Distaff a free-for-all now that Midnight Bisou is out?

Why would Ce Ce and Ollie's Candy not at least consider the FM Sprint as an alternative (should be the primary objective).

Maybe the BC can solve this dilemma by creating a FM Dirt Mile?
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:26 PM
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Yep; is there some stalwart in the FM Sprint or is the Distaff a free-for-all now that Midnight Bisou is out?

Why would Ce Ce and Ollie's Candy not at least consider the FM Sprint as an alternative (should be the primary objective).

Maybe the BC can solve this dilemma by creating a FM Dirt Mile?
Just feels like with all of the speed in the F&M Sprint it will help CeCe. Plus I think she’s better around 1 turn. She has a shot in the Sprint. No shot in the Distaff IMO.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:30 PM
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Just feels like with all of the speed in the F&M Sprint it will help CeCe. Plus I think she’s better around 1 turn. She has a shot in the Sprint. No shot in the Distaff IMO.
Agreed. I thought the same in the middle of the year despite the Apple Blossom win. Not sure if she has had excuses in her one turn starts this year, but in general, horses that make a middle or late move are up against it in 5-horse fields in California.

Conditions would more than likely be to order in a 7-furlong full field at Keeneland.
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NASHVILLE by-passes Sprint for the Perryville on undercard; BON RAISON gets in as a result..

FRANK'S ROCKETTE fully confirmed for Sprint..
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NASHVILLE by-passes Sprint for the Perryville on undercard; BON RAISON gets in as a result..

FRANK'S ROCKETTE fully confirmed for Sprint..
Nothing says the 2020 dirt sprint division like Bon Raison getting into the field.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:46 AM
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Exclamation SPRINT: Vekoma spikes fever, out..

Brutal.. Was a bet against for me and hate to hear for all reasons.
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Exclamation F&M SPRINT: Inthemidstofbiz out with fever

Marty McGee|@DRFMcGee: The @BreedersCup Filly and Mare Sprint (R4 Saturday) now down to 8 starters with the scratch of No. 4 Inthemidstofbiz, the G2 TCA winner who was 30-1 on the morning line. Slight fever. Speedy filly could've added to what already figures to be a swift early pace.
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Not insignificant. Gives Velazquez a bit more room to operate early on with Gamine..
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Not insignificant. Gives Velazquez a bit more room to operate early on with Gamine..
Curious why you think this helps Gamine. Do you see her outrunning Serengeti Empress early?
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Old 11-06-2020, 10:27 AM
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Curious why you think this helps Gamine. Do you see her outrunning Serengeti Empress early?
No. Just thought it gives Velazquez more room to operate.
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Gamine is just good. Damn good. Track record in the easiest of manners.
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