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Old 08-04-2009, 03:45 PM
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Can they run a one week meet and get the Breeders Cup run at Saratoga ?
Has this ever been discussed ?
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:47 PM
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No it's never been discussed. You should hold a meeting in your backyard right next to the OTB. Get some signatures and whatnot.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:13 PM
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No it's never been discussed. You should hold a meeting in your backyard right next to the OTB. Get some signatures and whatnot.
Gander and I will begin working on it today.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:47 PM
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Cold is the issue and yes its been discussed.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:49 PM
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Cold is the issue and yes its been discussed.
There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:50 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
Yes it is that much colder than Belmont in late Oct. I'm not saying not to do it, I would love it, but it is a reason given.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:10 PM
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Yes it is that much colder than Belmont in late Oct. I'm not saying not to do it, I would love it, but it is a reason given.
Couldn't be much colder than Churchill in '06.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:52 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
Yes, and the bigger reason it makes no sense in Saratoga is it would mean moving all the NYRA equipment up to Saratoga for one week and then moving it all back to Belmont. Unless they ever wanted to do a BC at the end of September and extended the Saratoga meet until then it makes absolutely no sense to move all the equipment two extra times when Belmont is a perfect venue for the BC.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:53 PM
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Bring it to the BigM. See the lifers there.
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Canada is kinda cold too isn't it?
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:59 PM
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Yes, and the bigger reason it makes no sense in Saratoga is it would mean moving all the NYRA equipment up to Saratoga for one week and then moving it all back to Belmont. Unless they ever wanted to do a BC at the end of September and extended the Saratoga meet until then it makes absolutely no sense to move all the equipment two extra times when Belmont is a perfect venue for the BC.
I dont see it but I'll take your word for it. May be 10 degrees different?
What about Chicago? Are you telling me its warmer in Chicago too?

Now is the cold issue relating to the fans wont want to stay outside in the cold all day? Or is it about plumbing and other technical equipment? If it is, that I could see, but fans go to Lambert Field in weather 50 degrees colder.

A BC on real dirt and a nice turf course is a pretty damn good product! I think people would come!

Lifers Randall? There are plenty of them here at Saratoga too!
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:01 PM
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I dont see it but I'll take your word for it. May be 10 degrees different?
What about Chicago? Are you telling me its warmer in Chicago too?

Now is the cold issue relating to the fans wont want to stay outside in the cold all day? Or is it about plumbing and other technical equipment? If it is, that I could see, but fans go to Lambert Field in weather 50 degrees colder.

A BC on real dirt and a nice turf course is a pretty damn good product! I think people would come!

Lifers Randall? There are plenty of them here at Saratoga too!
The BigM is a dump I don't want it there I was joking. SO is Aqueduct though.

Truthfully if they had a rotation between Arl, CD, Bel, and SA I'd be fine with that, though I don't like having it on Poly much.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:11 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
We live here, and we know its not much colder....
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:12 PM
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We live here, and we know its not much colder....
See that might be a reason not to have it in Chicago either.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:12 PM
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It would be amazing to have the BC at Sunshine Coast in Australia.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:16 PM
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We live here, and we know its not much colder....
Are all of you questioning whether Saratoga Springs is colder than Chicago or Toronto taking into account that Saratoga is not winterized whatsoever?

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Old 08-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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Are all of you questioning whether Saratoga Springs is colder than Chicago or Toronto taking into account that Saratoga is not winterized whatsoever?

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Thats the issue. Thank you. Not the actual outside temperature.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:12 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?

I agree the cold issue is a bs, nonsense excuse, as you just said they held it in Chicago on a day that was like 35-40 degrees, they held in Toronto for crying out loud.

The other lame excuse you hear from time to time is lodging. That's a laugh as well, the lodging between Albany and Lake George is more than enough.

Another lame one is the size, that one cracks me up, you can fit Monmouth and Lone Star inside Saratoga(separtely of course)

The bottom line is Saratoga and Belmont share the same "guts" and it is a huge undertaking transporting all the stuff back and forth. They don't want to go through the hassel just for a couple of days when Belmont has everthing all set up and is large enough.

Too bad the place deserves and it would be like when Fenway held the All Star Game, the nostaliga, the history, it would be insane
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:55 PM
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I agree the cold issue is a bs, nonsense excuse, as you just said they held it in Chicago on a day that was like 35-40 degrees, they held in Toronto for crying out loud.

The other lame excuse you hear from time to time is lodging. That's a laugh as well, the lodging between Albany and Lake George is more than enough.

Another lame one is the size, that one cracks me up, you can fit Monmouth and Lone Star inside Saratoga(separtely of course)

The bottom line is Saratoga and Belmont share the same "guts" and it is a huge undertaking transporting all the stuff back and forth. They don't want to go through the hassel just for a couple of days when Belmont has everthing all set up and is large enough.

Too bad the place deserves and it would be like when Fenway held the All Star Game, the nostaliga, the history, it would be insane
umm..not quite
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umm..not quite
Dude it was freezing in Chicago, was it colder?
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