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Old 08-14-2017, 08:30 PM
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Default 8/26 (SAR): 148th Travers Day (5 G1's, G2 undercard)



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Old 08-14-2017, 08:55 PM
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TRAVERS NOMINEE PP'S

ALWAYS DREAMING (Pletcher)
CLOUD COMPUTING (Brown)
FAYEQ (KMc)
GIRVIN (Sharp)
GIUSEPPE THE GREAT (Zito)
GOOD SAMARITAN (Mott)
GUNNEVERA (Sano)
IRAP (O'Neill)
LOOKIN AT LEE (Asmussen)
MCCRAKEN (Wilkes)
OUTPLAY (Pletcher)
PATCH (Pletcher)
PAVEL (O'Neill)
PERFECT PARTNER (Casse)
TAPWRIT (Pletcher)
TIMELINE (Brown)
WEST COAST (Baffert)
West Coast.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:22 PM
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Wow --- can't wait to see the field/post positions!!

Good Samaritan's effort in the Jim Dandy almost has to be upgraded due to how the track has played so far this meet. He looked great in the stretch despite the bias. That said, he definitely has that "last time was THE time to have him" feel about him, something along the lines of what Andy S likes to say.

Man, there's a few horses on this list that look like they could play the role of Arrogate last year and pull off an upset. McCraken, Pavel to name a couple. Not sure what to think of Tapwrit being trained up to this race. West Coast & Girvin are two that will be bet heavily off their last races, imo, but ya never know! The one thing that I DO know is that 3 yr old honors are still highly up for grabs! Can't wait to see how this one shakes out!
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:28 PM
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Wow --- can't wait to see the field/post positions!!

Good Samaritan's effort in the Jim Dandy almost has to be upgraded due to how the track has played so far this meet. He looked great in the stretch despite the bias. That said, he definitely has that "last time was THE time to have him" feel about him, something along the lines of what Andy S likes to say.

Man, there's a few horses on this list that look like they could play the role of Arrogate last year and pull off an upset. McCraken, Pavel to name a couple. Not sure what to think of Tapwrit being trained up to this race. West Coast & Girvin are two that will be bet heavily off their last races, imo, but ya never know! The one thing that I DO know is that 3 yr old honors are still highly up for grabs! Can't wait to see how this one shakes out!
One could argue the best 3yr old at this point is not even running.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:44 PM
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One could argue the best 3yr old at this point is not even running.
Unique Bella, I presume?
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:44 PM
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Irish Freedom
I meant in the race.

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Old 08-15-2017, 11:02 PM
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One could argue the best 3yr old at this point is not even running.
Two week turn around is probably not ideal for Oscar Performance.
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Old 08-15-2017, 11:03 PM
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I know, of the horses who will be bet, who the biggest bet against is for me... Good Samaritan.
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:31 PM
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i remember seeing Whitmore run earlier this meet at Sar and thought that he for sure would run in the Kings Bishop?? . Any word on what he has planned next?
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:47 PM
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i remember seeing Whitmore run earlier this meet at Sar and thought that he for sure would run in the Kings Bishop?? . Any word on what he has planned next?
he is an older horse, and i think he had a little issue right before the vanderbelt
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:58 PM
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thank 10pt, much appreciated. forgot that he wasnt a 3 yr old as now that i think about it im pretty sure i lost money on him last year during the triple crown races, just thought he looked pretty good winning the sprint race tht he was in up there earlier in the meet.
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:22 PM
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Kentucky Derby II

minus the fluff

Tapwrit, the fav, lost at SAR before, doubt he has a win here,

whereas, Good Samaritan, third in the BCJ Turf - 2016, has all the pedigree he needs to take this years eclipse.

Status: Active Owner(s): WinStar Farm LLC - China Horse Club International Ltd.
Trainer: William I. Mott
Bred: Kentucky (USA) by WinStar Farm LLC
Pedigree: Harlan's Holiday - Pull Dancer by Pulpit(sire of Tapit)

The $1.25 million Travers Stakes on Aug. 26, is expected to attract Always Dreaming, Cloud Computing, Belmont Stakes winner Tapwrit. If all three horses run in Midsummer Derby, it would mark the first time that's happened since Gato del Sol, Aloma's Ruler and Conquistador Cielo dueled in the 1982 Travers, won by Runaway Groom in a surprise.

might as well start painting that canoe white and blue for Winstar
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:24 PM
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the only other race this year for colts and horses that will be this full is the BCC at Del Mar...which dortmund will win
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:30 PM
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the only other race this year for colts and horses that will be this full is the BCC at Del Mar...which dortmund will win
A little early to be drunk isn't it ?
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:33 PM
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Unless I missed something, Irad Ortiz has only one stakes mount.
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:00 PM
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Unless I missed something, Irad Ortiz has only one stakes mount.
6th-Personal Ensign Stakes (Gr. 1): Going for Broke (Chad Brown)
12th-Ballston Spa Stakes (Gr. 2): Lady Eli (Chad Brown)
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Old 08-24-2017, 10:11 PM
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Thank you Steve. Guess I'll start eating more carrots!👓👀🤓
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:39 PM
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i remember seeing Whitmore run earlier this meet at Sar and thought that he for sure would run in the Kings Bishop?? . Any word on what he has planned next?
Possibly the Delmar Futurity. Distance should be perfect for him.
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:08 AM
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Anticipated Field

Always Dreaming (John Velazquez)
Cloud Computing (Javier Castellano)
Fayeq (Luis Saez)
Girvin (Robby Albarado)
Giuseppe the Great (Tyler Gaffalione)
Good Samaritan (Joel Rosario)
Gunnevera (Edgard Zayas)
Irap (Mario Gutierrez)
Lookin At Lee (Ricardo Santana Jr.)
McCraken (Brian Hernandez Jr.)
Tapwrit (Jose Ortiz)
West Coast (Mike Smith).
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:47 AM
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Anticipated Field

Always Dreaming (John Velazquez)
Cloud Computing (Javier Castellano)
Fayeq (Luis Saez)
Girvin (Robby Albarado)
Giuseppe the Great (Tyler Gaffalione)
Good Samaritan (Joel Rosario)
Gunnevera (Edgard Zayas)
Irap (Mario Gutierrez)
Lookin At Lee (Ricardo Santana Jr.)
McCraken (Brian Hernandez Jr.)
Tapwrit (Jose Ortiz)
West Coast (Mike Smith).
Just trying to recall more competitive travers races than this one...last year was pretty good as well on paper going on but not sure this one doesnt have more horses in good form.
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