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Old 05-25-2017, 09:54 AM
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Songbird to Belmont Park for 2017 debut

California-based two-time champion Songbird will make her 2017 debut at Belmont Park on June 10, Belmont Stakes day, trainer Jerry Hollendorfer confirmed early Thursday morning.

Songbird, who is scheduled to work Thursday at Santa Anita, is nominated to the Grade 1, $400,000 Beholder Mile on June 3 at Santa Anita, but Hollendorfer and Songbird’s owner Rick Porter have opted for the $750,000 Phipps one week later.

“The degree of difficulty between the two races is probably about the same,” Hollendorfer said. “But one purse is 750, and the other purse is 400. That was a big factor. Plus, it would give me another week to work with her and get her ready before Belmont day.”

Songbird has not started since finishing second by a nose in the Breeders’ Cup Distaff on Nov. 4. That was her first loss from 12 starts. Songbird has earned $3,712,000.

Mike Smith is scheduled to work Songbird by herself Thursday morning at 6:30. Battle of Midway, third in the Kentucky Derby, also will work Thursday as he prepares for the Grade 3 Affirmed on June 24 at Santa Anita.
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:13 PM
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Songbird is ducking Stellar Wind................no ands if or buts..............sorry it is what it is
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Old 05-25-2017, 06:12 PM
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Songbird is ducking Stellar Wind................no ands if or buts..............sorry it is what it is
Sure, I'll bite!


Maybe there's a couple hundred K ands ifs or buts about it!

We are talking about the same Stellar Wind that finished a handful of lengths behind Songbird the last time they were seen together, correct?
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Old 05-25-2017, 06:21 PM
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What is it about Songbird that turns some people into lunatics?
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Old 05-25-2017, 06:42 PM
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Imagine Rick Porter's frail health playing into the decision as well.
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Old 05-25-2017, 06:46 PM
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That she got jobbed is one thing that comes to mind.
Her beauty and ability is another.
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9th: METROPOLITAN

1 Inside Straight 15-1
2 Rally Cry 5-1
3 Denman’s Call 15-1
4 Solid Wager 15-1
5 Sharp Azteca 7-2
6 Mohaymen 20-1
7 Economic Model 15-1
8 Tom’s Ready 15-1
9 Mor Spirit 5-2
10 Virtual Machine 30-1
11 Tommy Macho 10-1
12 Awesome Slew 6-1


10th: MANHATTAN

1 Beach Patrol 4-1
2 Wake Forest 8-1
3 World Approval 3-1
4 Time Test 5-1
5 Ascend 20-1
6 Potemkin 8-1
7 Divisidero 4-1
8 Applicator 30-1
9 Sadler’s Joy 6-1


11th: BELMONT STAKES

1 Twisted Tom (J. Castellano) 20-1
2 Tapwrit (J. Ortiz) 6-1
3 Gormley (V. Espinoza) 8-1
4 J Boys Echo (R. Alvarado) 15-1
5 Hollywood Handsome (F. Geroux) 30-1
6 Looking At Lee (I. Ortiz Jr.) 5-1
7 Irish War Cry (R. Maragh) 7-2
8 Senior Investment (C. Hill) 12-1
9 Meantime (M. Smith) 15-1
10 Multiplier (J. Rosario) 15-1
11 Epicerais (C. Lemaire) 4-1
12 Patch (J. Velazquez) 12-1
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Not sure Mor Spirit should be favored of Sharp Azteca who has shown in tougher races to be a real racehorse, those Grade 3 wins for Mor Spirit are ok but this is a giant stepup
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:46 AM
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I wonder if Chad is sneaky live in the back five of the Mega-Card ?
He does have a habit of popping with price horses on big days.
Woody Stephens: LHB{5-1} Looked classy as can be in the last 1/8th of the Bay Shore.........LHB & The Money Monster look good.
Just a Game: Antonoe{8-1} The definition of a sneak play,it's all about her Euro form.
In three of her losses a Group 1 winner won the race,including the undefeated(8 for 8 now retired) La Cressonniere.
Antonoe also beat future double Group 1 winning Qemah when she broke her maiden by 6+ lengths.
Met Mile: Economic Model{15-1} CB rarely makes equipment changes,but the hood comes off Saturday(EM was 0 for 4 in blinkers).
Manhattan: Time Test{5-1} Wants firm ground..........badly,was competitive with horses in Europe that are half a pole better than these.
Belmont: Twisted Tom{20-1} Runs on anything,has won on Grass/Mud/Inner/Fast.
Undefeated in blinkers............the longer the better.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:54 AM
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Sounds like the Japanese horse will be out due to a leg issue
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The Woodford Reserve --- where Chad Brown has 3 going in a turf race and odds are against for even one of them to hit the exacta. Can't imagine seeing that too often!
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9th: METROPOLITAN

1 Inside Straight 15-1
2 Rally Cry 5-1
3 Denman’s Call 15-1
4 Solid Wager 15-1
5 Sharp Azteca 7-2
6 Mohaymen 20-1
7 Economic Model 15-1
8 Tom’s Ready 15-1
9 Mor Spirit 5-2
10 Virtual Machine 30-1
11 Tommy Macho 10-1
12 Awesome Slew 6-1
If someone could tell me how Rally Cry is 3rd choice in a Grade 1, i would sincerely appreciate it. Seems to be zero respect for those who ran in the Churchill sprint on derby day. None the less, i think this race falls apart up front and i'm fading Mor Spirit b/c i think his one and only tactic is to hope Sharp Azteca comes back to him, even so, i believe the closers will be getting into the action around that time.

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Tommy Macho was the only horse to make up any ground Wood Day. Thinking about using him and Awesome Slew and hope it melts down.
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Tommy Macho was the only horse to make up any ground Wood Day. Thinking about using him and Awesome Slew and hope it melts down.
Haha just texted you that same thing. I think Mohaymen my get frisky out front here. Works look that way and Ortiz on board.
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Haha just texted you that same thing. I think Mohaymen my get frisky out front here. Works look that way and Ortiz on board.
Like Mohaymen also
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