5/4 (CD): 145th Kentucky Oaks Day ~ 1st/4th off the turf..

[Kasept]

[declansharbor]

Is the Edgewood that includes Newspaperofrecord and the 1/9 odds accompanying her part of the Oaks Day P6?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Is the Edgewood that includes Newspaperofrecord and the 1/9 odds accompanying her part of the Oaks Day P6?

Yep, first leg. Don't think she'll be 1-9 if the other Chad stays in there but obviously still very short and I too was surprised to see it included in the Pick 6.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yep, first leg. Don't think she'll be 1-9 if the other Chad stays in there but obviously still very short and I too was surprised to see it included in the Pick 6.

Probably 1/2 and 2/1, with the others 20+ (rightfully so. They can't win.)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

Probably 1/2 and 2/1, with the others 20+ (rightfully so. They can't win.)

I see that's around the ML but I will respectfully disagree. No way those two are that close. They are in different leagues unless somehow Newspaperofrecord forgot how to run.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I see that's around the ML but I will respectfully disagree. No way those two are that close. They are in different leagues unless somehow Newspaperofrecord forgot how to run.

I don’t disagree. My line would be 2/5 and 3/1... I’m just making a ML, with the notation their speed figures are pretty close and the betting public will focus on that. I’ll probably avoid the race as there’s some much more appealing races later.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yep, first leg. Don't think she'll be 1-9 if the other Chad stays in there but obviously still very short and I too was surprised to see it included in the Pick 6.

A short priced single helps handle in a Pick-6 and Pick-5 and possibly Pick-4 depending on the other legs.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A short priced single helps handle in a Pick-6 and Pick-5 and possibly Pick-4 depending on the other legs.

I know it helps the handle b/c everyone is under the impression that there is a free square, but the last couple of years i've actually been trying to ween myself away from Pk3-Pk4-Pk5, etc. wagers when there is a chalk like Newspaperofrecord to start the first leg. My mindset is that everyone will have the horse in some which way shape or form thereby creating more live tickets and pushing down the payout.

-bt-

[moses]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I know it helps the handle b/c everyone is under the impression that there is a free square, but the last couple of years i've actually been trying to ween myself away from Pk3-Pk4-Pk5, etc. wagers when there is a chalk like Newspaperofrecord to start the first leg. My mindset is that everyone will have the horse in some which way shape or form thereby creating more live tickets and pushing down the payout.

-bt-

That is sometimes the case. I like to look for other races in the sequence where I can separate from the pack, though that’s not always the case.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I know it helps the handle b/c everyone is under the impression that there is a free square, but the last couple of years i've actually been trying to ween myself away from Pk3-Pk4-Pk5, etc. wagers when there is a chalk like Newspaperofrecord to start the first leg. My mindset is that everyone will have the horse in some which way shape or form thereby creating more live tickets and pushing down the payout.

-bt-

I relish these opportunities... Will include the favorite with one or 2 long shots and if she doesn't fire you are competing for a LARGE Pick 3, 4, 5.... Horses are not machines...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A short priced single helps handle in a Pick-6 and Pick-5 and possibly Pick-4 depending on the other legs.

Yeah, but usually in cases like these I'd think the objective is also to create a big carryover for the big day. Although with the $.20 minimum, that's pretty unlikely either way.