'17 CROWN TRAIL THREAD: Always Dreaming; Cloud Computing; Tapwrit

[Kasept]

143rd Kentucky Derby

1 Lookin at Lee (Steve Asmussen/Corey Lanerie) 20-1
2 Thunder Snow (Saeed bin Suroor/Christophe Soumillon) 20-1
3 Fast and Accurate (Mike Maker/Channing Hill) 50-1
4 Untrapped (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana Jr.) 30-1
5 Always Dreaming (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) 5-1
6 State of Honor (Mark Casse/Jose Lezcano) 30-1
7 Girvin (Joe Sharp/Mike Smith) 15-1
8 Hence (Steve Asmussen/Florent Geroux 15-1
9 Irap (Doug O'Neill/Mario Guttierez) 20-1
10 Gunnevera (Antonio Sano/Javier Castellano) 15-1
11 Battle of Midway (Jerry Hollendorfer/Flavian Prat) 30-1
12 Sonneteer (Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux) 50-1
13 J Boys Echo (Dale Romans/Luis Saez) 20-1
14 Classic Empire (Mark Casse/Julien Leparoux) 4-1
15 McCraken (Ian Wilkes/Brian Hernandez Jr.) 5-1
16 Tapwrit (Todd Pletcher/Jose Ortiz) 20-1
17 Irish War Cry (Graham Motion/Rajiv Maragh) 6-1
18 Gormley (John Shirreffs/Victor Espinoza) 15-1
19 Practical Joke (Chad Brown/Joel Rosario) 20-1
20 Patch (Todd Pletcher/Tyler Gaffalione) 30-1
AE/21. Royal Mo (John Shirreffs/Gary Stevens) 20-1
AE/22. Master Plan (Todd Pletcher/) 50-1


142nd Preakness Stakes

1. Multiplier (Walsh/Rosario)
2. Cloud Computing (Brown/Castellano)
3. Hence (Asmussen/Geroux)
4. Always Dreaming (Pletcher/Velazquez)
5. Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux)*
6. Gunnevara (Sano/M. Smith)
7. Term of Art (O'Neill/J. Ortiz)
8. Senior Investment (McPeek/Hill)
9. Lookin At Lee (Asmussen/Lanerie)
10. Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez/Carreno)


149th Belmont Stakes

1 Twisted Tom (J. Castellano) 20-1
2 Tapwrit (J. Ortiz) 6-1
3 Gormley (V. Espinoza) 8-1
4 J Boys Echo (R. Alvarado) 15-1
5 Hollywood Handsome (F. Geroux) 30-1
6 Looking At Lee (I. Ortiz Jr.) 5-1
7 Irish War Cry (R. Maragh) 7-2
8 Senior Investment (C. Hill) 12-1
9 Meantime (M. Smith) 15-1
10 Multiplier (J. Rosario) 15-1
11 Epicerais (C. Lemaire) SCR
12 Patch (J. Velazquez) 12-1

[Dunbar]

Thanks for accumulating this info in one place. I find it really helpful.

[XIIPointStables]

Always a huge help thanks Steve

[Kasept]

TRAIL RESULTS


3/11/17 - Tampa Bay Derby (8.5f) 50/20/10/5

1 Tale of Silence Lopez P 116 L
2 The Money Monster Rosario J 116 L
3 Basha Jaramillo E 116 L
4 No Dozing Centeno D E 116 L 5
5 Tapwrit Ortiz J L 116 L 50
6 Beasley Ortiz I Jr 116 L
7 Sonic Mule Velazquez J R 118 L
8 State of Honor Leparoux J R 116 L 20
9 Wild Shot Albarado R J 116 L 10
10 Zion Valley Villa-Gomez H 116


3/11/17 - San Felipe (8.5f) 50/20/10/5

1 Term of Art Baze T C 122 L 10
2 Vending Machine Arroyo N Jr 120 L
3 Ann Arbor Eddie Gutierrez Mario 120 L
4 Mastery Smith M E 124 L 50
5 Gormley Espinoza V 122 L 5
6 Iliad Prat F 120 L 20
7 Bluegrass Envy Radosevich J 120 L


3/18/17 - Rebel (8.5f) 50/20/10/5

1 Silver Bullion Vazquez R A 115 L
2 Uncontested Hill C 122 L
3 Sonneteer Eramia R E 115 L 20
4 Petrov Ortiz J L 115 L 5
5 Untrapped Ortiz I Jr 115 L 10
6 Malagacy Castellano J J 115 L 50
7 American Anthem Smith M E 115 L
8 Silver Dust Lanerie C J 115 L
9 Appalachian Gem Stevens G L 115 L
10 Royal Mo Espinoza V 122 L
11 Lookin At Lee Santana R Jr


3/25/17 - UAE Derby (9f) 100/40/20/10

Epicharis (Hagiwara) 40
Master Plan (Pletcher) 20
Vittori Kin (McPeek) ~ So. Hemisphere 3yo
Thunder Snow (Suroor) 100
Lancaster Bomber (O'Brien) 10
Spirit Of Valor (O'Brien)
Top Score (Suroor)
Adirato (Sugai)
He Runs Away (Colombo)
Fawree (De Kock)
Cosmo Charlie (Watson)
Fly At Dawn (Appleby)
Qatar Man (Botti)
Bee Jersey (Watson)
f-Nomorerichblondes (Harmash)
f-Midnight Chica (Selvaratnam)


3/25/17 - Spiral (8.5f) 50/20/10/5

1 Blueridge Traveler Hill C 123 L 20
2 Soglio McCarthy T 123 L
3 Fast and Accurate Gaffalione T 123 L 50
4 Convict Pike Cruz A 123 L 10
5 Colonel Samsen Lezcano J 123 Blk-Off L
6 Giant Payday Landeros C 123 L
7 Shiraz Hernandez R M 123 L
8 Kitten's Cat Saez L 123 L 5
9 Parlor Castanon J L 123 L
10 Bronson Franco M 123 L
11 King and His Court Boulanger G 123 L
12 En Hanse Albarado R J 123 L


3/26/17 - Sunland Derby (9f) 50/20/10/5

1 Shareholder Value Castellano J J 122 L
2 Hedge Fund Ortiz J L 122 L 10
3 Bronze Age Garcia M 122 L
4 Oxford Lane Eramia R E 122 L
5 Irap Gutierrez Mario 122 Blk-On L 5
6 Dilettante Stevens G L 122 L
7 Kimbear Talamo J 122 L
8 Wine N Divine Perez M A 122 L
9 Hence Juarez A J Jr 122 L 50
10 Balandeen Hill C 122 L
11 Total Tap Geroux F 122 L
12 Conquest Mo Money Carreno J 122 L 20


4/1/17 - Louisiana Derby (9f) 100/40/20/10

1 Patch Gaffalione T 122 L 40
2 Hollywood Handsome Torres F C 122 L 10
3 Local Hero Geroux F 122 L 20
4 Senior Investment Hill C 122 L
5 Monaco Maragh R 122 Blk-On L
6 Guest Suite Albarado R J 122 L
7 Sorry Erik Desormeaux K J 122 L
8 Girvin Hernandez B J Jr 122 L 100
9 Hotfoot Graham J 122 L


4/1/17 - Florida Derby (9f) 100/40/20/10

1 State of Honor Leparoux J R 122 Blk-Off L 40
2 Talk Logistics Bravo J 122 L
3 Charlie the Greek Reyes L 122 L
4 Always Dreaming Velazquez J R 122 L 100
5 Quinientos Montalvo C 122 L
6 Coleman Rocky Ortiz J L 122 L
7 Unbridled Holiday Juarez N 122 Blk-On L
8 Impressive Edge Lanerie C J 122 L 10
9 Battalion Runner Velazquez J R 122 L
10 Three Rules Saez L 122 L
11 Gunnevera Castellano J J 122 L 20


4/8/17 - Blue Grass (9f) 100/40/20/10

1 It's Your Nickel Graham J 123 L
2 McCraken Hernandez B J Jr 123 L 20
3 J Boys Echo Albarado R J 123 L 10
4 Tapwrit Ortiz J L 123 L
5 Wild Shot Lanerie C J 123 L
6 Irap Leparoux J R 123 L 100
7 Practical Joke Rosario J 123 L 40


4/8/17 - Wood Memorial (9f) 100/40/20/10

1 Glennrichment Carmouche K 123 L (12-1)
2 Mo Town Castellano J J 123 L (6-1)
3 Battalion Runner Velazquez J R 123 L (2-1) 40
4 Bonus Points Saez L 123 L (20-1)
5 True Timber Lopez P 123 L (12-1) 10
6 Stretch's Stone Franco M 123 L (15-1)
7 Cloud Computing Ortiz I Jr 123 L (5-2) 20
8 Irish War Cry Maragh R 123 L (7-2) 100


4/8/17 - Santa Anita Derby (9f) 100/40/20/10

1 Term of Art Baze T C 124 L (12-1)
2 Reach the World Smith M E 124 L (5-1) 10
3 Battle of Midway Nakatani C S 124 L (5-1) 40
4 Comma Sister Ocampo I 124 L (50-1)
5 So Conflated Gutierrez Mario 124 L (15-1)
6 American Anthem Garcia M 124 L (5-1)
7 Kimbear Talamo J 124 L (12-1)
8 Gormley Espinoza V 124 L (9-2) 100
9 Iliad Prat F 124 L (7-2)
10 Milton Freewater Pereira T J 124 L (30-1)
11 Irish Freedom Bejarano R 124 L (20-1)
12 Midnight Pleasure Theriot H J II 124 L (30-1)
13 Royal Mo Stevens G L 124 L (10-1) 20


4/15/17 - Arkansas Derby (9f) 100/40/20/10

1. Rockin Ruby (O'Neill/Guttierez) 12-1
2. Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux) 8-5 50
3. Silver Dust (Morse/Lanerie) 20-1
4. Petrov (Moquett/Sanatana) 12-1
5. Grampa's Dream (Hartman/Canchari) 30-1
6. Lookin at Lee (Asmussen/Vasquez) 15-1 20
7. Sonneteer (Desormeaux/Desormeaux) 15-1 10
8. Rowdy the Warrior (Von Hemel/) 30-1
9. Untrapped (Asmussen/M. Smith) 6-1
10. One Dreamy Dude (Van Berg/Franco) 50-1
11. Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez) 15-1 40
12. Malagacy (Pletcher/Castellano) 2-1

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Kasept

3/26/17 - Sunland Derby (9f) 50/20/10/5

Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez)
Bronze Age (Baffert)
Irap (O'Neill)
Total Tap (Asmussen)
Hedge Fund (Pletcher)
Shareholder Value (Amoss)
Dilettante (Lukas)
Hence (Asmussen)
Oxford Lane (McPeek)
Kimbear (Kruljac)
Oh So Regal (Hernandez)
Ol’ Drunk Daddy (Smith)
Wine N Divine (Green)

Who would pass on this exacta? I'm all in

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by casp0555

Who would pass on this exacta? I'm all in

The 1-2 is a pretty good hunch exacta, too.

PP Horse Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L
1 Shareholder Value (KY) Javier Castellano 122 Thomas M. Amoss 6/1
2 Hedge Fund (KY) Jose L. Ortiz 122 Todd A. Pletcher 6/1

[Rudeboyelvis]

Tapwrit confirmed for the Blue Grass

Epicharis bypassing KY Derby, pointing to Preakness / Belmont

[tjfla]

Fast and Accurate IN

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...t-and-accurate

Gotta love Ken Ramsey- I mean Kendall Hansen(Another Idiot). Costs 200K to run 18th

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Tapwrit confirmed for the Blue Grass

Epicharis bypassing KY Derby, pointing to Preakness / Belmont

Blue Grass looking like a nice race!!

[essayamx]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

The 1-2 is a pretty good hunch exacta, too.

PP Horse Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L
1 Shareholder Value (KY) Javier Castellano 122 Thomas M. Amoss 6/1
2 Hedge Fund (KY) Jose L. Ortiz 122 Todd A. Pletcher 6/1

Might as well make it a Trifecta. The not so rich get richer!

Hedge Fund
Shareholder Value
Conquest Mo Money

[richard burch]

Want to give shout out to Mastery who according to the internet is recovering from his leg fracture. Very sad....What a impressive horse. I wish him well.

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/horse...139832168.html

[Kasept]

Castellano commits to Gunnevara..

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Castellano commits to Gunnevara..

well then he is committed to losing the derby.

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by richard burch

well then he is committed to losing the derby.

Big Malagacy fan? He committed to the best option available.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Big Malagacy fan? He committed to the best option available.

no, not that horse. true for the other one. if you get a mount in the derby you go.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by richard burch

well then he is committed to losing the derby.

Going out on quite the limb there saying the horse that's gonna be like the 5th choice won't win in a 20 horse field.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Going out on quite the limb there saying the horse that's gonna be like the 5th choice won't win in a 20 horse field.

"Going out on quite the limb" is my middle name!

Austin Going out on quite the limb Powers.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Going out on quite the limb there saying the horse that's gonna be like the 5th choice won't win in a 20 horse field.

but really, I feel more confident in saying he will not win the derby than saying who the winner actually will be. Until the post draw the odds are slightly off now. You know who ever gets the 1,2 or 3 shoot is done.

Ferdinand was the last horse to win from the far inside post (in 1986), and you have to go back to Triple Crown winner Affirmed in 1978 to find a Derby winner that broke from gate No. 2.

- Overall, posts 1 through 4 have a 7.3 percent win rate but Super Saver (2010) is the only winner in the last 17 runnings.

The outside of the gate has had great success in recent years. The auxiliary gate (15-20) has had eight of the last 17 winners, including the aforementioned American Pharoah, I’ll Have Another (post 19, 2012), Animal Kingdom (post 16, 2011) and Big Brown (post 20, 2008).



https://www.americasbestracing.net/t...ns-the-numbers

but I have some thoughts on that.


and don't we get a Japan horse in the field every year?

Epicharis Earns Japan's Kentucky Derby Bid
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ucky-derby-bid

[Kasept]

Conquest Mo Money will PASS on Derby.. Look at Preakness..

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by richard burch

well then he is committed to losing the derby.

but still hitting the board