So much for horses needing 4 to 5 weeks rest

[SniperSB23]

So now we've had Corinthian win on 3 weeks rest, Einstein win on 2 weeks rest, and Miss Shop win on 1 week rest. Guess we can toss all that BS the trainers are spewing about not being able to bring back stakes horses without at least 5 weeks in between. I don't ever want to hear 4 weeks referred to as short rest again.

[blackthroatedwind]

I was having this very discussion with Zito a little earlier today and the conversation got around to Jerkens. Nick predicted he would run 1-2 in today's race.

Pretty close.

[randallscott35]

Any excuse to name drop. LOL

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Any excuse to name drop. LOL

You know me.

[Scurlogue Champ]

In Australia and England they run them every weekend or 14 days when they are on a campaign.

But don't be talking about that in America, those foreign trainers are just wrong.....

Makybe Diva won the Cox Plate at 1 1/4 miles and the Melbourne Cup at 2 miles 9 days apart when she was 7 years old.

[pmayjr]

I wish these owners and trainers of million dollar horses could agree to run their horses more often. Like the way it used to be. To me horses (at least on the high-end stakes level) are like Major League pitchers.

Eventhough they run less and less frequently, they still get hurt and come down with injuries... and subsequently get retired. Pitchers run on 5 days reast, and rotations are bigger so they don't have to throw as much... and yet pitchers still have the same arm problems.

So does the amount of rest ultimately help them, or does it work inversely? Maybe since horses don't run enough and pitchers don't pitch enough, they don't build up the proper endurance to get through these injuries??? Agree? Disagree? Apples and Oranges Cajun?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

In Australia and England they run them every weekend or 14 days when they are on a campaign.But don't be talking about that in America, those foreign trainers are just wrong.....Makybe Diva won the Cox Plate at 1 1/4 miles and the Melbourne Cup at 2 miles 9 days apart when she was 7 years old.

True, but they also seem to get time off back at the farm. Here everyone wants to seem to race year-round.

How many US horses in training get to leave the track (if not injured) and get let down, then get brought back into training the next year?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

In Australia and England they run them every weekend or 14 days when they are on a campaign.

But don't be talking about that in America, those foreign trainers are just wrong.....

Makybe Diva won the Cox Plate at 1 1/4 miles and the Melbourne Cup at 2 miles 9 days apart when she was 7 years old.

And the highest finishing Aussie-based horse Maybe Better (third to the two Japanese runners) in last year's Melbourne Cup had qualified to get in by winning a race the Saturday before the Tuesday of the Cup. That's a 12.5f race THREE DAYS before a 2 mile race. Or course, the Cup was the culmination of the spring carnival for older horses and Maybe Better was spelled afterward.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You know me.

Tell Maxine and Carlos that I said Hi...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Tell Maxine and Carlos that I said Hi...

I'm not in Florida. I only see Carlos in NY these days.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I was having this very discussion with Zito a little earlier today and the conversation got around to Jerkens. Nick predicted he would run 1-2 in today's race.

Pretty close.

How often does he run back on short rest? Not very, correct?

Also, what's the deal with Sun King?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

How often does he run back on short rest? Not very, correct?

Also, what's the deal with Sun King?

His horses run.

As far as Sun King.....I haven't mentioned him in over six weeks. Trainers work too hard for me to bother them about their horses.

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I was having this very discussion with Zito a little earlier today and the conversation got around to Jerkens. Nick predicted he would run 1-2 in today's race.

Pretty close.

Since you know him, ask him what is up with "my" horse CP West. Dang I really like that horse.

[PPerfectfan]

I have run one of my QH's on a Thursday and then back agian on Sunday. But then agian he was going 300yds!

[Honu]

Here's a story of a horse needing no rest , I rode an 870 horse on Sat. and ran third , then I rode it in the first race on Sunday and it won, it got faster overnight LOL.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So now we've had Corinthian win on 3 weeks rest, Einstein win on 2 weeks rest, and Miss Shop win on 1 week rest. Guess we can toss all that BS the trainers are spewing about not being able to bring back stakes horses without at least 5 weeks in between. I don't ever want to hear 4 weeks referred to as short rest again.

Depends on the horse, trainer and effort put out last time. Conquistador Cielo won the '82 Belmont by 14 six days after putting up a track record in the Met Mile (of course against elders).

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ceejay

Depends on the horse, trainer and effort put out last time. Conquistador Cielo won the '82 Belmont by 14 six days after putting up a track record in the Met Mile (of course against elders).

Actually it was five days.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually it was five days.

Yeah, it was. Sorry!

[blackthroatedwind]

Hell, in 1987 Gulch ran in the Gotham, won the Wood two weeks later, ran in the Derby in another two weeks, the Preakness, beat olders in the Met Mile nine days later, and then ran in the Belmont 12 days after that.

I don't think it had a negative affect on him.

[outofthebox]

Wow, didnt realize that. And he won a breeders cup sprint the next year. What a versitile horse..