Problems are brewing...

[Cannon Shell]

I like the part where Manley considers jockeys employees and says that they need a pay raise. Dont we all!! Sponsoring harmful legislation and then saying that they will withdraw support for it if the industry addresses their problems seems like blackmail to me.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/DM040507.asp

[blackthroatedwind]

The riders do not have a united front and cannot seem to figure out how to help themselves thus I can't understand how they expect others to help them. Their self-serving approach, along with a general disdain for everyone else involved in this industry, is not going to help them.

[randallscott35]

Isn't everyone in the game self-serving though?...Is it blackmail, sure, but good faith bargaining doesn't exist anymore.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Isn't everyone in the game self-serving though?...Is it blackmail, sure, but good faith bargaining doesn't exist anymore.

To a certain extent but others aren't asking for help the way the riders seem to be.

[Danzig]

i disagree with his contention that a jockey is an employee. who employs him? isn't he a contractor, and self-employed?
but if they can 'prove' that jockeys are employees, then someone else has to pay all the workmens comp ins. and then an injured jock would be covered by that, and there goes the need for the disabled jockey fund.

[brianwspencer]

While I admit to following the jockeys guild stuff with only passing interest, shouldn't this really say it all? I didn't even need to get to the interview to know it was going to be bad.

Sports agent, real estate developer, rare coin expert and skilled negotiator, Dwight Manley was named in July 2006 the National Manager of the Jockeys' Guild, a union representing more than 1,100 of the nation's horse racing jockeys.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i disagree with his contention that a jockey is an employee. who employs him? isn't he a contractor, and self-employed?
but if they can 'prove' that jockeys are employees, then someone else has to pay all the workmens comp ins. and then an injured jock would be covered by that, and there goes the need for the disabled jockey fund.

Well, if they are employees then they have no rights whatsoever to advertising dollars they may receive. This, of course, gets to the heart of the matter, which is that they want things both ways. They want the benefits of being a private contractor and the benefits of being an employee.

Benefits only.

[Fearless Leader]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. If you read the laughable blood Horse chat with the leader of the gnome society you will see that without a shadow of a doubt, NOTHING has, or will change. This guy is equal parts arrogant, evasive, and just plain uninformed. The jockey's only have themselves to blame for allowing the nonsense to continue and shouldn't be shocked when they continue to get ZERO support from the other factions within the industry.

[blackthroatedwind]

See the " Problems Are Brewing " thread.