Pletcher ... Same Old Story

[ateamstupid]

I know his horses were marooned in difficult posts, but another bullshit showing from the John Edward lookalike.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I know his horses were marooned in difficult posts, but another bullshit showing from the John Edward lookalike.

Next time you see Mr.Pletcher...he'll have platinum blonde hair
and he'll look like Billy Idol off today's results

[Cannon Shell]

But he did win the maiden race after the Derby

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

t pleach WHATS UP #####

Pletcher has something to look forward to. Cowtown Cat will be a lock in the Hawthorne Gold Cup. A good prep would be the St. Louis Derby at Fairmount.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Pletcher has something to look forward to. Cowtown Cat will be a lock in the Hawthorne Gold Cup. A good prep would be the St. Louis Derby at Fairmount.

Sorry but I believe there isn't going to be a St. Louis Derby this year.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But he did win the maiden race after the Derby

Was that a lock or what??? The man has become a legend at winning the booby prize. He did the same thing last year after failing (Yes Yes Yes won the 11th and paid $18)

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by philcski

Was that a lock or what??? The man has become a legend at winning the booby prize. He did the same thing last year after failing (Yes Yes Yes won the 11th and paid $18)

Let's see, he also won and ran second in the Oaks with two terrific fillies, 26 mil in purses and is on pace to shatter every training record, gets a new top client everyday. Yeah, what a bum!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Revidere

Let's see, he also won and ran second in the Oaks with two terrific fillies, 26 mil in purses and is on pace to shatter every training record, gets a new top client everyday. Yeah, what a bum!

But has he won the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness, the Belmont?
How's he done in the BC?

Oh yeah, that's right... 2 for a million with the best stock in the world.

If I'm his clients, who ARE the top owners in the game- I want the big prize, not the booby prize he's becoming a champion of.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Steve B. went off on this subject [ very well I thought ] on Mondays show.

If Todd belives in the ""system""... well he should also belive in..."" If it aint broke dont fix it ""... So his ""system"" has produced How many derby winners ?.... Maybe its time to fix the system ? Its funny that when he's with Johnny V. @ the spa... all his horses are going off @ 8-5... as they should be..since he wins... Maybe im from the old school and belive that todays horses dont run enought. If a horse needs a 8 week layoff.. Thats fine..but your going to send him to the KD ? The crime is the betting public who put hard earned $$'s on a horse that wasnt ready to run ? Belive Me I know NOTHING about training a horse, I know Todd does, but is it in the best interest of the horse & betting public ?

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But he did win the maiden race after the Derby

I've got a question for you, Chuck.

NBC made a big deal about Pletcher saddling all 5 horses. Would his rushing through the saddling routines have any effect on the way his horses ran? Athough he did saddle the top 2 runners in the Oaks (and another, if I'm not mistaken), is there something to be said for concentrating on 1 horse, and helping settle it, before a big race? Do you think his horses (and owners) would have been better served if he had drawn lots and concentrated on 1 horse and have his assistants assigned to each of the other horses? Just curious.

[_ed_]

Originally Posted by Unstable

I've got a question for you, Chuck.

NBC made a big deal about Pletcher saddling all 5 horses. Would his rushing through the saddling routines have any effect on the way his horses ran? Athough he did saddle the top 2 runners in the Oaks (and another, if I'm not mistaken), is there something to be said for concentrating on 1 horse, and helping settle it, before a big race? Do you think his horses (and owners) would have been better served if he had drawn lots and concentrated on 1 horse and have his assistants assigned to each of the other horses? Just curious.

I think that's a very good point.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Unstable

I've got a question for you, Chuck.

NBC made a big deal about Pletcher saddling all 5 horses. Would his rushing through the saddling routines have any effect on the way his horses ran? Athough he did saddle the top 2 runners in the Oaks (and another, if I'm not mistaken), is there something to be said for concentrating on 1 horse, and helping settle it, before a big race? Do you think his horses (and owners) would have been better served if he had drawn lots and concentrated on 1 horse and have his assistants assigned to each of the other horses? Just curious.

no

[timmgirvan]

I could be completely wrong here BUT, It is such an accomplishment to get to the TC races that undue pressure is put on these trainers....its not like Florida was just glad to get to BCS title game/or NCAA finals(you can thank me later,Cajun)...horses are different...not machines. 20 horse fields don't help either. IMO..if you want an honest race and conditions...you gotta trim the field to the one starting gate. Any trainer in the World would trade places with TP for the success he's garnered in the past years!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I know his horses were marooned in difficult posts, but another bullshit showing from the John Edward lookalike.

One of these years he'll realize that an 8 week layoff or shuttling his horses around simply to appease his clients does NOT work in the attempt to win the Derby.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by philcski

One of these years he'll realize that an 8 week layoff or shuttling his horses around simply to appease his clients does NOT work in the attempt to win the Derby.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!