Scat Daddy...

[pmayjr]

I've heard about his hoof problems and the shoes and the bla bla bla, but what if he just doesn't like the Chuchill Surface? 2 races and not much to show for it at CD. I didn't bet him and I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but maybe some R and R and point him towards Belmont?

[Danzig]

well, you have to wonder how much pletcher really liked his chances, since he sold his half!! smart man.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

I've heard about his hoof problems and the shoes and the bla bla bla, but what if he just doesn't like the Chuchill Surface? 2 races and not much to show for it at CD. I didn't bet him and I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but maybe some R and R and point him towards Belmont?

If you mean pointing him towards THE Belmont, he has no shot. . . NO way he wins at 12F. . .

[pmayjr]

yes thanks for clarifying. I mean THE Belmont. Based on what happens yesterday, I don't think he can beat the Top 3, but it's not out of the realm for him to be pointed towards trying.

[PPerfectfan]

Look the fact of the matter is, the bar shoe is a factor. I dont care how Pletcher tried to spin it, if you have to train your horse in a bar shoe, its because there is a problem with his feet. And to have that happen, on the biggest racing day, in the biggest field of his life,,,,,,Its a problem! And he ran like I thought he would.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Bold prediction - he'll win the Jim Dandy @ the Spa

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Bold prediction - he'll win the Jim Dandy @ the Spa

That's at 1 1/16 miles, right? If so and if he's healthy, I could see it. . .

[ALostTexan]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Bold prediction - he'll win the Jim Dandy @ the Spa

I could definately see that. I cannot see him even starting the Belmont, much less winning it, but the Dandy is a race for him.

Are we going to see him take the rest of the summer of and 'train up' to it?

ALostTexan

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

Look the fact of the matter is, the bar shoe is a factor. I dont care how Pletcher tried to spin it, if you have to train your horse in a bar shoe, its because there is a problem with his feet. And to have that happen, on the biggest racing day, in the biggest field of his life,,,,,,Its a problem! And he ran like I thought he would.

Exactly.

IMO, this horse has little to no chance of even making it to the Belmont. He isn't a mile and a half type of horse anyway, but his performance in the Derby was so bad that it shouldn't even warrant a try from a trainer like Todd Pletcher. If he does run in the Belmont, he will be an easy toss.

Before the Derby, Todd Pletcher said that the horse had been working in 'bar shoes' or 'similar' for a long time. Pletcher is notorious for statements like these and this particular statement most likely meant that Todd Pletcher had been working him in similar type shoes until he recently switched him to bar shoes. The significance of this was that the horse's feet had not been right for some time and that the condition of them was most likely deteriorating. He was an easy toss in the Derby based on this.

[Bobby Fischer]

it was amazing that he won twice going 9f

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Before the Derby, Todd Pletcher said that the horse had been working in 'bar shoes' or 'similar' for a long time. Pletcher is notorious for statements like these and this particular statement most likely meant that Todd Pletcher had been working him in similar type shoes until he recently switched him to bar shoes. The significance of this was that the horse's feet had not been right for some time and that the condition of them was most likely deteriorating. He was an easy toss in the Derby based on this.

Feel free to give us some other examples.