Jamie Sanders

[Left Bank]

Does this woman have a problem?Is there something that I am not seeing in the past performances that she is?I do NOT even think this woman can read a condition book.I totally agree with Andy Beyer,in that this woman is on a mission to destroy Teuflesberg.What the F_ck is she thinking?This horse has ZERO graded stakes earnings,has been getting his ass handed to him,and now she is taking him to the Preakness?You have got to be kidding me!!God help the horses under her care.This is almost to the point of abuse.And,she is now doing the same thing with some of her other horses,Little Springer and Cape of Storms.Both were entered last week in the G-3 Kentucky breeders cup,and neither of them showed anything that would make a sensible trainer enter them in that race.I think this is the same way it all started out for Teuflesberg.Does she smoke good weed?Or is she just naturally stupid?Sorry,but if I was Nick Zito,I would be on the phone telling her to stop telling people she used to work for me,because in my opinion all she is doing is embarrassing him by saying that.Is there anything anyone can do to stop this idiot?

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Does this woman have a problem?Is there something that I am not seeing in the past performances that she is?I do NOT even think this woman can read a condition book.I totally agree with Andy Beyer,in that this woman is on a mission to destroy Teuflesberg.What the F_ck is she thinking?This horse has ZERO graded stakes earnings,has been getting his ass handed to him,and now she is taking him to the Preakness?You have got to be kidding me!!God help the horses under her care.This is almost to the point of abuse.And,she is now doing the same thing with some of her other horses,Little Springer and Cape of Storms.Both were entered last week in the G-3 Kentucky breeders cup,and neither of them showed anything that would make a sensible trainer enter them in that race.I think this is the same way it all started out for Teuflesberg.Does she smoke good weed?Or is she just naturally stupid?Sorry,but if I was Nick Zito,I would be on the phone telling her to stop telling people she used to work for me,because in my opinion all she is doing is embarrassing him by saying that.Is there anything anyone can do to stop this idiot?

I have to agree with you.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ARyan

I have to agree with you.

It's a hard business and she's had little success so far but I admire her effort. She's been schooled by two of the best and I suspect she knows a little about training. Teuflesberg won the Southwest Stakes, a 250k race and has hit the board in several graded stake races, saying he had zero graded earnings is incorrect, he had over $100,000 or he wouldn't have made the Derby. He lost the Bluegrass by a neck...I don't see why he didn't belong in the Derby field based on his past performances. It's funny...folks always complain about how infrequently horses run then when someone actually runs their horse, they complain about that. If the horse is sound, why not go to a track that historically with tight turns and a shorter distance favors horses with speed? It will be the horse's 6th start of the season...I don't see a problem!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

It's a hard business and she's had little success so far but I admire her effort. She's been schooled by two of the best and I suspect she knows a little about training. Teuflesberg won the Southwest Stakes, a 250k race and has hit the board in several graded stake races, saying he had zero graded earnings is incorrect, he had over $100,000 or he wouldn't have made the Derby. He lost the Bluegrass by a neck...I don't see why he didn't belong in the Derby field based on his past performances. It's funny...folks always complain about how infrequently horses run then when someone actually runs their horse, they complain about that. If the horse is sound, why not go to a track that historically with tight turns and a shorter distance favors horses with speed? It will be the horse's 6th start of the season...I don't see a problem!

This horse has been campaigning non-stop since October racing 10 times in seven months on six tracks. He is running against the top of the heap for the most part and against horses that have had breaks. While she has every right to run him where she wants, it doesn't appear that she has any real plan other than finding the next race on the schedule that is about 3-4 weeks out.

The horse has been game in many of these races, but it does seem to me that the well has run dry and he needs a break and or some class relief. There is nothing about his derby performance that would indicate that he will bounce back in two weeks against similar competition.

And using the BlueGrass as evidence that this horse belongs at this level is crazy. You have to know what a pace aberration that race was. All of his other Graded stakes attempts were marginal at best, and often horrible.

[tiznowthegreat]

It's not just Teuflesberg. Look at her entries this entire past week at Churchill. She had a horse in most every stakes, they were always the longest price on the board, and I don't think that one even hit the board. She had 3 alone in the 2 year old stakes on Thursday.

[MISTERGEE]

might be the naseem rauf of stakes racing

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat

It's not just Teuflesberg. Look at her entries this entire past week at Churchill. She had a horse in most every stakes, they were always the longest price on the board, and I don't think that one even hit the board. She had 3 alone in the 2 year old stakes on Thursday.

That's what I'm saying.She did the exact same thing with Teuflesberg,same races I think.She has no idea what she is doing,and her .02 win percentage shows it.She is ruining these fine animals.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Does this woman have a problem?Is there something that I am not seeing in the past performances that she is?I do NOT even think this woman can read a condition book.I totally agree with Andy Beyer,in that this woman is on a mission to destroy Teuflesberg.What the F_ck is she thinking?This horse has ZERO graded stakes earnings,has been getting his ass handed to him,and now she is taking him to the Preakness?You have got to be kidding me!!God help the horses under her care.This is almost to the point of abuse.And,she is now doing the same thing with some of her other horses,Little Springer and Cape of Storms.Both were entered last week in the G-3 Kentucky breeders cup,and neither of them showed anything that would make a sensible trainer enter them in that race.I think this is the same way it all started out for Teuflesberg.Does she smoke good weed?Or is she just naturally stupid?Sorry,but if I was Nick Zito,I would be on the phone telling her to stop telling people she used to work for me,because in my opinion all she is doing is embarrassing him by saying that.Is there anything anyone can do to stop this idiot?

WOW! strong words...but YOUR right! You would think Lukas was her mentor.
It's really too bad, maybe she just wants her "10 minutes of fame".
But, there have been trainers in the past that have done the same thing along the Triple Crown trail...
it doesn't surprise me at all!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Does this woman have a problem?Is there something that I am not seeing in the past performances that she is?I do NOT even think this woman can read a condition book.I totally agree with Andy Beyer,in that this woman is on a mission to destroy Teuflesberg.What the F_ck is she thinking?This horse has ZERO graded stakes earnings,has been getting his ass handed to him,and now she is taking him to the Preakness?You have got to be kidding me!!God help the horses under her care.This is almost to the point of abuse.And,she is now doing the same thing with some of her other horses,Little Springer and Cape of Storms.Both were entered last week in the G-3 Kentucky breeders cup,and neither of them showed anything that would make a sensible trainer enter them in that race.I think this is the same way it all started out for Teuflesberg.Does she smoke good weed?Or is she just naturally stupid?Sorry,but if I was Nick Zito,I would be on the phone telling her to stop telling people she used to work for me,because in my opinion all she is doing is embarrassing him by saying that.Is there anything anyone can do to stop this idiot?

-- Lost the Blue Grass by 4 feet. Is that so awful?
-- You're wrong about the graded earnings. Right?
-- She paid $8,000 for the horse and he's earned $400,000+. Is that so bad?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

While I agree with your points, going in the Preakness seems pretty stupid at this point. Losing the Bluegrass by a neck is one thing, but lets not forget he went in something crazy like 26 and 52, while unchallenged. I think ultimately she will go to the well one too many times and end this very talented colts career prematurely.

This I agree...the female version of D.Wayne

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

This I agree...the female version of D.Wayne

The horse was four wide with the pace in the Derby, not surprising that he tired. The horse has hit the board only once in six tries at CD, that an alw win...he may well dislike the surface. Again, I think it's unfair to criticize her at this point...she knows the horse, she trains and owns him. Besides, horses do run poorly in the Derby and rebound in the Preakness...if he's sound, she has every right to run him.

[robfla]

POST DERBY QUOTES:
JAMIE SANDERS (trainer, Teuflesberg, 17th) -- “I’m sure Street Sense was the best horse today, but there’s a lot of horses that come back to win the Preakness. Louis Quatorze (Sanders was his exercise rider) ran 16th in this race (in 1996) and came back to win the Preakness.”

“He (Teuflesberg) looked good and he was sitting up there and they kind of cut him off coming out of the turn and he (jockey Stewart Elliott) had to check him--and that was all.”

STEWART ELLIOTT (jockey, Teuflesberg, 17th) – “We were in a great spot. At the three-eighths pole, I was second, and I thought I had more horse than I had. But that was it.”

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As a trainer if he dislikes the surface does it make sense to run him in the Derby then?

I don't know if he dislikes it or not, he was 5/1-0-0 going into the Derby, I just suggested that now that he's 6/1-0-0, it is possible that he didn't like it. I simply see no reason not to try the shorter Preakness if the horse is sound. The poly to dirt thing is pretty confusing, some horses (Street Sense) appear to like the dirt better, some (Dominican) may like poly...coming out of the Blue Grass where the horse ran well...it's possible he didn't like CD.

[DaTruth]

Since she is part-owner of most of the horses in her barn, I don't see her being fired anytime soon.

[Kasept]

Churchill backstretch riddle: What do Jamie Sanders and milk have in common? Both come in 2%..

Career so far into Saturday? 226 starters, 10 wins (4 by T-berg..). So without him: 222/6.. Wow..

[timmgirvan]

So...who's the Sugar Daddy??

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Churchill backstretch riddle: What do Jamie Sanders and milk have in common? Both come in 2%..

Career so far into Saturday? 226 starters, 10 wins (4 by T-berg..). So without him: 222/6.. Wow..

Thats what I thought, T'Berg is running all the time because he is the meal ticket. He is the one carrying the load and putting her in the limelight.

Somewhere Nauseem Rauf is watching all this and saying to himself "Jesus Christ! If I had stock like that even I could hit 10%!"

[Left Bank]

Well,she is putting him in the Preakness.I hope this doesn't happen,but I expect this horse to break down very soon.He has got to be tired after all these starts with no rest,and now he is being asked to continue on at even longer distances,against the same horses who have whooped his ass time and again.This is usually when it happens.Even if a horse is tired or hurt,it will try and try and try,even after breaking something,which I hope does not happen, but with the way she is handling this horse,it looks inevitable.I sure wish someone at Churchill would go over and sit this dumbass down and have a little talk with her.

[sumitas]

If any of us had Tberg i think we'd have a great shot to win more bucks than she has.

[ALostTexan]

Just don't let her know about the Lone Star Derby, as she might think about it this coming weekend as a prep for the Preakness...

ALostTexan