Where is Upstate NY...

[estreetposse]

This could get interesting!!!

[saucon17]

Like I just said FINGER LAKES region

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Like I just said FINGER LAKES region

I know what you said silly...didn't want to hijack the the argu...Met Mile thread.

[ARyan]

Bring on the debate!! Hahaha!

Finger Lakes to me, is either Central or Western, NY.

Albany/Adirondacks north (you could get away with Utica), Upstate.
Syracuse, Central.
Roch/Buffalo, Western.
Binghampton/Elmira/Catskills, Southern.

This is an debate that can go on and on.

I just started saying I am from VT, since I am closer to VT then any place that gets thrown at you when you say you are from NY or Upstate, NY.

"Oh Saratoga/Lake George, that's near Niagara Falls right? Oh it is not? Oh so near the City are you?."
.

[saucon17]

Man I wish my sister was on DT arguing about upstate NY. She went to Ithaca College and Rochester U an always referred to those two places as upstate NY. I can see Rochester as upstate NY because if you go any further north you would be swimming in Lake Ontario.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Man I wish my sister was on DT arguing about upstate NY. She went to Ithaca College and Rochester U an always referred to those two places as upstate NY. I can see Rochester as upstate NY because if you go any further north you would be swimming in Lake Ontario.

To me Rochester is Western.

If you say Rochester is Upstate and not Western, what would you call Canton or Thousand Islands? Artic New York?

[tycharles01]

Don't get Jay Cronley going. He gets mad fast but he is a great handicapper just look at thos derby picks

[pmacdaddy]

I'm originally from Albany, now live on Long Island.

In my mind "upstate" is anything North of the Tappan Zee Bridge.

Guess it is all relative. My folks in Binghamton always point out, if they were any further "down" they would be in PA.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Bring on the debate!! Hahaha!

Finger Lakes to me, is either Central or Western, NY.

Albany/Adirondacks north (you could get away with Utica), Upstate.
Syracuse, Central.
Roch/Buffalo, Western.
Binghampton/Elmira/Catskills, Southern.

This is an debate that can go on and on.

I just started saying I am from VT, since I am closer to VT then any place that gets thrown at you when you say you are from NY or Upstate, NY.

"Oh Saratoga/Lake George, that's near Niagara Falls right? Oh it is not? Oh so near the City are you?."
.

thats funny...cause I am in VT, and I find it easier to just say I am almost in Canada....they understand it more.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

thats funny...cause I am in VT, and I find it easier to just say I am almost in Canada....they understand it more.

Northeast Kingdom eh?

[estreetposse]

My opinion is NY has many regions...but that's not the answer in the upstate vs. downstate debate

Downstate=South of Poughkeepsie East of Middletown

Upstate=All the Rest

I find it amusing on vacation when people ask where you're from and I say NY...they immediately assume the city, LI, West., Orange, Putnam CTY's.
and show it with negative attitude...once it's made known it's upstate(Capital Region or beyond) the conversation turns much more positive.

Yonkers upstate?
That's just funny right thar!!!

[philcski]

This is a terrible definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

What the REAL (MY) definition is:

Long Island: Nassau, Suffolk counties
New York City: New York, Queens, Kings, Richmond, Bronx counties
Hudson Region: Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, Putnam counties
Catskills: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, Ulster, Columbia counties
Capital District: Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Washington counties
Northern/Adirondacks: Warren, Essex, Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Fulton, Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson counties
Central: Montgomery, Schoharie, Otsego, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison, Chenango, Broome, Tioga, Cortland, Onandaga, Oswego counties
Finger Lakes: Cayuga, Wayne, Tompkins, Chemung, Schuyler, Yates, Seneca, Ontario, Stuben counties
Western: Monroe, Livingston, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, Niagara, Erie, Cattaragus, Chatauqua counties

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by philcski

This is a terrible definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

What the REAL (MY) definition is:

Long Island: Nassau, Suffolk counties
New York City: New York, Queens, Kings, Richmond, Bronx counties
Hudson Region: Westchester, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, Putnam counties
Catskills: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, Ulster, Columbia counties
Capital District: Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Washington counties
Northern/Adirondacks: Warren, Essex, Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Fulton, Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson counties
Central: Montgomery, Schoharie, Otsego, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison, Chenango, Broome, Tioga, Cortland, Onandaga, Oswego counties
Finger Lakes: Cayuga, Wayne, Tompkins, Chemung, Schuyler, Yates, Seneca, Ontario, Stuben counties
Western: Monroe, Livingston, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, Niagara, Erie, Cattaragus, Chatauqua counties

I agree with your statement, excpet for Washington County. Washington borders VT and if far north of Albany, and is very rural, labeling it with Albany, Rensselaer, Schnectady and Saratoga make it seem more urban. Let's be honest, Washington County's cow population is larger then the human population, even if you doubled the human popluation.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ARyan

I agree with your statement, excpet for Washington County. Washington borders VT and if far north of Albany, and is very rural, labeling it with Albany, Rensselaer, Schnectady and Saratoga make it seem more urban. Let's be honest, Washington County it has more cows then if you double the human population.

Oh, I know. I got a flat tire there once and the hillbilly that changed it for me was like a NASCAR pit guy. But it's a big county, doesn't really fit the Adirondacks, so it gets put with Saratoga/Capital. The Albany newspaper gets delivered there, I'm guessing? Sniper?

Let's be honest... much of Saratoga County is rural as well.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

This could get interesting!!!

I'm not sure if you're kidding or really want an answer.
Since I live "upstate" (Delaware county in the Catskills), it seems to me and my friends that live in the Big Apple, that anything north of Westchester is "upstate". Get on the New York Thruway and once you get past Suffern, you'll see it. Actually, you can't miss it.
I hope this helps.
DTS

[boswd]

Depends on the region your from.

NYC/Long Island people think it's - Anything above Poughkeepsie and they include EVERYWHERE. Albany to Canton Ny and from Albany to Buffalo and everything in between.

[pmacdaddy]

Hate to say it, but I'm sure the term was coined from a "city folk" point of view. Which makes the downstate definition accurate as it is a downstate term.

Some debate as to where the line of demarkation is, but I believe it is really a term to seperate New York State into two parts Upstate and NY Metro.

When I lived "upstate", I don't believe I ever even used the term.

[miraja2]

Where is it? Who the hell cares?
I have another question though, where the hell does this thread belong?
Answer: I don't know for sure....but I KNOW it isn't in the paddock.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Shut up muttenhead.

To quote the great Nelson...

"Ha ha."

By the way, great link in your signature, you baby gorilla.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

I know the folk in Amsterdam say there's nothing west of Fonda worth while...but what do those city people know!