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Old 06-10-2007, 04:53 AM
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Seeing now that Hard Spun has been competitive against the best 3-year olds, but has shown not to be as good as SS, Curlin, and Rags, where do you point Hard Spun now?

Do you keep him on the dirt for the summer? The horses above have beaten him, but at a mile and a quarter he's held his own, including that "moster" 2nd he ran in the Derby (being close to that fast pace, he ran huge).

Or do you move him to the Turf? His sire is Danzig, so he should be just as formidable on the turf. For both Danzig and Hard Spun's future stud fee's, showing that he can be competitive in the TC races and being a Turf winner would play a huge factor. Also, could he maybe be even better at this surface, kinda like when Showing Up moved to the Turf after the Derby last year?
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:56 AM
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I think he'd be a heck of a sprinter...
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Old 06-10-2007, 05:12 AM
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I was thinking about that angle as well...

But do you think he'd come from off the pace as a sprinter or do you think he'd stay on the pace and try and outlast his competition? I know of his ability to put up sizzling works which would make us believe he can sprint, but...
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Old 06-10-2007, 05:21 AM
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I said sprint, but actually I think he'd be great at a mile, 7F or 6F...and also, I'm not the biggest Pino fan, but after the Belmont, I think if I were Jones, I'd apologize & put him back aboard.
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I said sprint, but actually I think he'd be great at a mile, 7F or 6F...and also, I'm not the biggest Pino fan, but after the Belmont, I think if I were Jones, I'd apologize & put him back aboard.

I don't think it was Jones who wanted him off. Listening to Jones on ATRAB, He didn't seem to think Pino's ride was the reason for losing the Preakness. The pri.ck of an owner was clearly the one who wanted the change. What a loser he is.

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Old 06-10-2007, 07:01 AM
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They should aim him for the Kings Bishop, maybe he can take down a Grade 1 before he enters his well deserved retirement at the end of the year.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:37 PM
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I said sprint, but actually I think he'd be great at a mile, 7F or 6F...and also, I'm not the biggest Pino fan, but after the Belmont, I think if I were Jones, I'd apologize & put him back aboard.
I was thinking that the whole time. His race was a train wreck the whole race.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:46 PM
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I'd like to see him at a mile on the turf or poly. . .
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:32 AM
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Seeing now that Hard Spun has been competitive against the best 3-year olds, but has shown not to be as good as SS, Curlin, and Rags, where do you point Hard Spun now?

Do you keep him on the dirt for the summer? The horses above have beaten him, but at a mile and a quarter he's held his own, including that "moster" 2nd he ran in the Derby (being close to that fast pace, he ran huge).

Or do you move him to the Turf? His sire is Danzig, so he should be just as formidable on the turf. For both Danzig and Hard Spun's future stud fee's, showing that he can be competitive in the TC races and being a Turf winner would play a huge factor. Also, could he maybe be even better at this surface, kinda like when Showing Up moved to the Turf after the Derby last year?
what? you do know danzig is deceased, right? which is why hard spun is so sought after....

i don't see hard spun falling off the map. he almost won the derby, so i don't think the distance is an issue for him. maybe he's the congaree of his time, right set up, right race, he can win it--altho it may be just a bit too long for him.
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Darley or move him to sprint division.
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i'd imagine tho if street sense goes to the haskell, hard spun will go to the jim dandy. those two will avoid each other, unless of course they both go in the bcc--which i doubt, look at the avoidance between bernardini and discreet cat last year.
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Darley or move him to sprint division.
i know they want to shuttle him to the southern hemi, wonder if they'd retire him now and send him down under...i hope not, but to be honest, i wouldn't be surprised to see it announced this week.
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:54 AM
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Jones might not to want to move him down since he saw that Teuflesberg race on the undercard


Must say tho Stormello ran a nice race and I do think he could be something by the end of the year
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