A petition to save the people of Darfur

[somerfrost]

Over 450,000 have been slaughtered so far in this modern-day genocide by the ruthless, murderous ruler of The Sudan, the atrocities are endless...raping and torturing women and children, wiping out entire villages for "ethnic cleansing"...we can stop this with institution of a "no fly zone", we have the power but do we as a nation have the will? Leaders of both parties have voiced concern and signed this petition, Bush has taken some limited action but these people need...no deserve much more! Watch the disturbing video and sign the petition...please!
http://www.lifenets.net/nofly/noflyA.php

[kenny p]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Over 450,000 have been slaughtered so far in this modern-day genocide by the ruthless, murderous ruler of The Sudan, the atrocities are endless...raping and torturing women and children, wiping out entire villages for "ethnic cleansing"...we can stop this with institution of a "no fly zone", we have the power but do we as a nation have the will? Leaders of both parties have voiced concern and signed this petition, Bush has taken some limited action but these people need...no deserve much more! Watch the disturbing video and sign the petition...please!
http://www.lifenets.net/nofly/noflyA.php

I have been aware of Darfur for years. Unfortunately the world doesnt care about these people and I dont think it ever will. The average American could care less. Sad but true. The Sudanese have been slavers for centuries and they are not going to change. Also its obvious the Europeans dont care either. What a shame. KP

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by kenny p

I have been aware of Darfur for years. Unfortunately the world doesnt care about these people and I dont think it ever will. The average American could care less. Sad but true. The Sudanese have been slavers for centuries and they are not going to change. Also its obvious the Europeans dont care either. What a shame. KP

The only thing that can change things is public outcry and it has been swelling! It didn't take us long to protect the white folks in Bosnia (we did absolutely the right thing) but when it comes to the Sudan...

[skippy3481]

Darfur is a very sad situation. I signed the petition but I'm sorry to say that a squadron of fighter jets is not going to make that much of a diffrence.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Darfur is a very sad situation. I signed the petition but I'm sorry to say that a squadron of fighter jets is not going to make that much of a diffrence.

If we could keep those killer choppers out then maybe the UN would actually be willing to send a peace force in...afterall, the Sudanese ground forces are guys on horseback!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by kenny p

I have been aware of Darfur for years. Unfortunately the world doesnt care about these people and I dont think it ever will. The average American could care less. Sad but true. The Sudanese have been slavers for centuries and they are not going to change. Also its obvious the Europeans dont care either. What a shame. KP

While the situation there is TRAGIC, I think Africa should govern itself. The continent was victimized for too long by European Imperialism. And public outcry was certainly correct in demanding that the Europeans get out.
Evidence, the present case and others throughout Africa, suggests that the Africans are quite capable of their own atrocities. Are we suggesting that Africa needs help from the Europeans (or America)?

Can't be true: they're doing just fine, killing each other off, on their own.

A model that should really be used in the case of the Middle East, as well. No need to intrude; they're perfectly capable of killing each other.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

While the situation there is TRAGIC, I think Africa should govern itself. The continent was victimized for too long by European Imperialism. And public outcry was certainly correct in demanding that the Europeans get out.
Evidence, the present case and others throughout Africa, suggests that the Africans are quite capable of their own atrocities. Are we suggesting that Africa needs help from the Europeans (or America)?

Can't be true: they're doing just fine, killing each other off, on their own.

A model that should really be used in the case of the Middle East, as well. No need to intrude; they're perfectly capable of killing each other.

I feel your cynic view shows a lack of humanity, of course we should stop this crime...we have the ability and to sit and do nothing is a crime in itself, makes those "never again" promises rather hollow-sounding! There is a huge difference between exploiting people and their land for our own self-interests and allowing slaughter by a criminal despot...don't think Saddam ever did anything to this magnitude!

[Danzig]

many nations said 'never again' after realizing the magnitude of the holocaust. easier said than done...what they meant i suppose was never again to a group we care about.

it's funny tho, we always want to step in, always want to help, but as soon as we do so, anywhere, then there are those saying we aren't the worlds police, we should mind our business, it's not worth american lives, etc. dammed if we do, dammed if we don't.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

many nations said 'never again' after realizing the magnitude of the holocaust. easier said than done...what they meant i suppose was never again to a group we care about.

it's funny tho, we always want to step in, always want to help, but as soon as we do so, anywhere, then there are those saying we aren't the worlds police, we should mind our business, it's not worth american lives, etc. dammed if we do, dammed if we don't.

Agreed! Thanks for pointing this out!