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Old 06-18-2007, 08:42 PM
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While on a long drive down the boring road, some thoughts came to my head. I was wondering would some kind of incentive plan work to help attract higher quality fields than what we are seeing these days. If this doesn't make sense, forgive me as I didn't totally think it all the way out. So I was thinking that instead of wasting money creating these stupid new BC races, they could put that money to better use. I was thinking that they could add $50k to the purse of each race that attracts a previous grade one winner to the field. For each horse, they could add $50k. For example, if the Whitney draws three horses that are grade one winners, there would be $150k added to the purse. I was thinking lesser amounts for grade two winners ($25k) and grade three winners ($10k). The money that is added to the purse could be distrubuted in the same manner as the rest of the purse or to make it more interesting, it could be winner take all. Is this something that could possibly be done? If it could be, do u think it would work?
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:16 PM
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While on a long drive down the boring road, some thoughts came to my head. I was wondering would some kind of incentive plan work to help attract higher quality fields than what we are seeing these days. If this doesn't make sense, forgive me as I didn't totally think it all the way out. So I was thinking that instead of wasting money creating these stupid new BC races, they could put that money to better use. I was thinking that they could add $50k to the purse of each race that attracts a previous grade one winner to the field. For each horse, they could add $50k. For example, if the Whitney draws three horses that are grade one winners, there would be $150k added to the purse. I was thinking lesser amounts for grade two winners ($25k) and grade three winners ($10k). The money that is added to the purse could be distrubuted in the same manner as the rest of the purse or to make it more interesting, it could be winner take all. Is this something that could possibly be done? If it could be, do u think it would work?
King, I have to admit, but Polytrack might have alot to do with it. You should see the fields at Arlington, it is pretty amazing the turnaround that they have. The pools have really grown also.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:30 PM
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how about adding 500k to any race that draws a sales topper from any sale?

2 sales toppers would be 1mil extra, and so on.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:07 AM
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how about adding 500k to any race that draws a sales topper from any sale?

2 sales toppers would be 1mil extra, and so on.
nudge nudge wink wink.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:04 AM
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King, I have to admit, but Polytrack might have alot to do with it. You should see the fields at Arlington, it is pretty amazing the turnaround that they have. The pools have really grown also.
what?
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:03 AM
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While on a long drive down the boring road, some thoughts came to my head. I was wondering would some kind of incentive plan work to help attract higher quality fields than what we are seeing these days. If this doesn't make sense, forgive me as I didn't totally think it all the way out. So I was thinking that instead of wasting money creating these stupid new BC races, they could put that money to better use. I was thinking that they could add $50k to the purse of each race that attracts a previous grade one winner to the field. For each horse, they could add $50k. For example, if the Whitney draws three horses that are grade one winners, there would be $150k added to the purse. I was thinking lesser amounts for grade two winners ($25k) and grade three winners ($10k). The money that is added to the purse could be distrubuted in the same manner as the rest of the purse or to make it more interesting, it could be winner take all. Is this something that could possibly be done? If it could be, do u think it would work?
what?
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:14 AM
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While on a long drive down the boring road, some thoughts came to my head. I was wondering would some kind of incentive plan work to help attract higher quality fields than what we are seeing these days. If this doesn't make sense, forgive me as I didn't totally think it all the way out. So I was thinking that instead of wasting money creating these stupid new BC races, they could put that money to better use. I was thinking that they could add $50k to the purse of each race that attracts a previous grade one winner to the field. For each horse, they could add $50k. For example, if the Whitney draws three horses that are grade one winners, there would be $150k added to the purse. I was thinking lesser amounts for grade two winners ($25k) and grade three winners ($10k). The money that is added to the purse could be distrubuted in the same manner as the rest of the purse or to make it more interesting, it could be winner take all. Is this something that could possibly be done? If it could be, do u think it would work?
Suffolk Downs is trying a variation on this for the Mass Cap. They are going to give an extra $100K to any Grade I winner that wins the Mass Cap. An extra $200K to any double Grade I winner that wins the Mass Cap. Let's see who they attract.

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Old 06-19-2007, 09:12 AM
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I hadn't read that. I think it's an interesting attempt. I don't know if it will work but at least it's trying something. I'm trying to think back to 1990. Didn't Arlington offer some kind of increase to the purse of the race they were trying to get Sunday Silence and Easy Goer too and because of the extra purse money, they ended up getting a couple of others that otherwise weren't considering the race? Anyone remember how that situation went?
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:16 AM
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I hadn't read that. I think it's an interesting attempt. I don't know if it will work but at least it's trying something. I'm trying to think back to 1990. Didn't Arlington offer some kind of increase to the purse of the race they were trying to get Sunday Silence and Easy Goer too and because of the extra purse money, they ended up getting a couple of others that otherwise weren't considering the race? Anyone remember how that situation went?

It was designed as a challenge for Easy Goer, Sunday Silence and Criminal Type but the first two were retired before it was supposed to happen.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:22 AM
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It was designed as a challenge for Easy Goer, Sunday Silence and Criminal Type but the first two were retired before it was supposed to happen.
I remembered that much but I don't remember if Criminal Type still went to the race. I don't see it listed among his career wins. Do u remember if any of the other top horses of that year were planning to show up even before the two headliners dropped out? Do u remember what the purse bonus was supposed to be and how it was to be paid out?
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:30 AM
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I think it was supposed to be for all three of them and don't remember anything else ( that's a lot of questions for early in the morning ).

Criminal Type won the Whitney for his final career win. I think his flop in the Woodward was his final career start.
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While on a long drive down the boring road, some thoughts came to my head. I was wondering would some kind of incentive plan work to help attract higher quality fields than what we are seeing these days. If this doesn't make sense, forgive me as I didn't totally think it all the way out. So I was thinking that instead of wasting money creating these stupid new BC races, they could put that money to better use. I was thinking that they could add $50k to the purse of each race that attracts a previous grade one winner to the field. For each horse, they could add $50k. For example, if the Whitney draws three horses that are grade one winners, there would be $150k added to the purse. I was thinking lesser amounts for grade two winners ($25k) and grade three winners ($10k). The money that is added to the purse could be distrubuted in the same manner as the rest of the purse or to make it more interesting, it could be winner take all. Is this something that could possibly be done? If it could be, do u think it would work?
I cant see how a 50k bonus would attract more horses to a race. I suppose that it would be nice if you got 3 or 4 grade 1 winners but really what is the difference between a $500000 race and a $700000 race other than for the winner? Would the bonus be in effect for all grade 1 races? If so you are gonna need more money than just scrapping the new BC races (though I cant understand why people want to get rid of races that have not even had a chance to be run yet)
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