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Old 07-09-2007, 03:40 AM
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Dear Folks: As I was perusing my usual haunts,as y'all were sleeping,I ran aross this article about the infamous Margaret Sanger
http://www.scholarscorner.com/ethics/Anti-Semitism.html The last line is particularly appalling!
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:59 AM
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This info is from a black group....name says it all! Margie and PP are mentioned! Wow...links!
http://www.blackgenocide.org/planned.html
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:14 AM
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Timm, if you look deeply enough into most things, past and present, you will find many are not what they appear to be, in fact, the exact opposite of what they claim to stand for.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:06 PM
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Timm, if you look deeply enough into most things, past and present, you will find many are not what they appear to be, in fact, the exact opposite of what they claim to stand for.
Golfer: you could be correct,but Planned Parenthood made record profits last year...and her praises were sung strongly on this forum last week!
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:55 PM
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We would not need Planned Parenthood if people who were against abortion would step up to the plate and adopt. Talk is cheap. Go save a life. Adopt.

What I find interesting is that males can deny a woman her right to choose because they are not having the child. So for males to have a solid moral foundation, go talk a woman out of an abortion and promise to adopt her child. Otherwise, you are talking the talk, but not walking the walk. And ranting is dirt cheap if you dont live it.

So lets start a list of people who are against a woman's right to choose, and have adopted a child that was going to be aborted... I will start the numbering. These will be the people who really hold the moral high ground.

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Old 07-09-2007, 01:38 PM
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[quote=pgardn]We would not need Planned Parenthood if people who were against abortion would step up to the plate and adopt. Talk is cheap. Go save a life. Adopt.

What I find interesting is that males can deny a woman her right to choose because they are not having the child. So for males to have a solid moral foundation, go talk a woman out of an abortion and promise to adopt her child. Otherwise, you are talking the talk, but not walking the walk. And ranting is dirt cheap if you dont live it.

So lets start a list of people who are against a woman's right to choose, and have adopted a child that was going to be aborted... I will start the numbering. These will be the people who really hold the moral high ground.

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Pgardn: Peculiar post from you,I think! I wasn't talking about a womans' right to choose. How does it become the right to lifers responsiblity to adopt every unwanted child? You suppose much about what I think. If you bothered to read the links, you'd see that Margaret Sanger was hardly the "Clarion of Light and Family Values" that she's been made out to be!
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:52 PM
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We would not need Planned Parenthood if people who were against abortion would step up to the plate and adopt. Talk is cheap. Go save a life. Adopt.

What I find interesting is that males can deny a woman her right to choose because they are not having the child. So for males to have a solid moral foundation, go talk a woman out of an abortion and promise to adopt her child. Otherwise, you are talking the talk, but not walking the walk. And ranting is dirt cheap if you dont live it.

So lets start a list of people who are against a woman's right to choose, and have adopted a child that was going to be aborted... I will start the numbering. These will be the people who really hold the moral high ground.

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Sorry Pgardn, I can't let that slide...whether abortion is right or wrong isn't determined by the actions of either side, it is determined by whether it is right or wrong! Attacking the messenger won't fly....if Hitler came out and said genocide was wrong...the fact that he was a monster wouldn't make that statement false. I agree that folks should adopt more, I agree that young women shouldn't be reduced to slavery by their womb but I oppose abortion and...contrary to the vast majority of my feminist friends, I think that is the correct position for a feminist but that's another subject.
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Golfer: you could be correct,but Planned Parenthood made record profits last year...and her praises were sung strongly on this forum last week!
timm,
Let's be honest for just a minute.
1) I don't know much about Sanger, so I'll not comment.
2) The context in which her name came up on this forum was one that was dealing with Bush's second veto concerned with expansion of stem cell lines harvested from unused (no longer viable) embryos at fertility clinics.
3) One person's trash (medical waste) is another one's treasure (genetic reserchers seeking remedies for genetic diseases, and those that would benefit from same).
4) The "Snowflake Project" has brought 120-140 of those embyos to term.

So...what do you suggest doing with the other 499,880?
Dumpster or lab?
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:46 PM
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timm,
Let's be honest for just a minute.
1) I don't know much about Sanger, so I'll not comment.
2) The context in which her name came up on this forum was one that was dealing with Bush's second veto concerned with expansion of stem cell lines harvested from unused (no longer viable) embryos at fertility clinics.
3) One person's trash (medical waste) is another one's treasure (genetic reserchers seeking remedies for genetic diseases, and those that would benefit from same).
4) The "Snowflake Project" has brought 120-140 of those embyos to term.

So...what do you suggest doing with the other 499,880?
Dumpster or lab?
Well...since my whole post was about Sanger, get back to me when you know something about her!
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