Mullins after claimed from....wow!

Split Rock · #1 07-17-2007, 06:39 PM

Just did a little research.

206 horses claimed from Jeff Mullins
62 failed to race more than five times (30%)
10 broke down in their very next start (5%)
Most took a downward form cycle unless claimed from an expected drug user.

Is this data similar to most trainers or can a judgement be made here?

Left Bank · #2 07-17-2007, 07:02 PM

I posted this in another thread but I will put it here too.I think it is relevant.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...16delmeds.html

#3 07-17-2007, 07:03 PM

No different than a bank robber or terrorist.

letswastemoney · #4 07-17-2007, 07:06 PM

Mellow Cammie in the 8th at Del Mar tommorow......just claimed from Mullins.

theiman · #5 07-17-2007, 07:17 PM

Lets hope the mares taken from him arent bred.

Imagine what their foals would look like!!

paisjpq · #6 07-17-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Mellow Cammie in the 8th at Del Mar tommorow......just claimed from Mullins.

other way around....mullins just claimed him.

letswastemoney · #7 07-17-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

other way around....mullins just claimed him.

oh yeah that's what i meant to type.

Anyways, maybe I should stay away from that one.

my miss storm cat · #8 07-17-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

maybe I should stay away from that one.

I should stay away from this entire topic. Not getting into another Mullins fight.

-BT- · #9 07-17-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

No different than a bank robber or terrorist.

but with the addition of the mullet

-bt-

my miss storm cat · #10 07-17-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Rock

Is this data similar to most trainers or can a judgement be made here?

I'd like to know that.....

The Indomitable DrugS · #11 07-17-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Rock

Just did a little research.

206 horses claimed from Jeff Mullins
62 failed to race more than five times (30%)
10 broke down in their very next start (5%)

That's only because breeders like speed horses, and many more horses are being foaled now than back in the 1950's.

Don't blame drugs, blame the breeders.

paisjpq · #12 07-17-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That's only because breeders like speed horses, and many more horses are being foaled now than back in the 1950's.

Don't blame drugs, blame the breeders.

blame both....and blame the market and the trainers and owners too....everyone is to blame.

The Indomitable DrugS · #13 07-17-2007, 08:20 PM

I don't see it that way at all.

If you take drugs totally out of the equation...you're obviously left with no one to blame. The problem wouldn't exist.

Sightseek · #14 07-17-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't see it that way at all.

If you take drugs totally out of the equation...you're obviously left with no one to blame. The problem wouldn't exist.

Storm Cat is to blame for this, global warming, lack of world peace and the reason we've never had a woman president. (not that I'm voting for Hillary)

#15 07-17-2007, 08:27 PM

Look when you've got a sport (baseball, auto racing, horse racing, pro wrestling) where people with mullets are rewarded for what they do, you're going to end up with a giant turd sandwich with an olive.

The Indomitable DrugS · #16 07-17-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Storm Cat is to blame for this, global warming, lack of world peace and the reason we've never had a woman president. (not that I'm voting for Hillary)

If I wasn't a sexist person I would vote for Hillary.

Indian Charlie · #17 07-18-2007, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Storm Cat is to blame for this, global warming, lack of world peace and the reason we've never had a woman president. (not that I'm voting for Hillary)

i'm not sure that even if hillary won, you could claim we had a woman president.

paisjpq · #18 07-17-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't see it that way at all.

If you take drugs totally out of the equation...you're obviously left with no one to blame. The problem wouldn't exist.

it's a chicken or the egg arguement....so many horses in the breeding shed ran on drugs...but the breeder didn't tell the trainer to give them....so now they are producing sub-par animals but it can't all be laid at the feet of the breeder....and those breeders who DO try to avoid fad sires and speed sires are left with a useful horse that is completely unmarketable....so unless they are breeding to race there is no point....so there you can blame the end user....

it's ridiculous to blame a problem as complex as this on only one part of the equation.

and if you took drugs completely out of the equation the frauds would be uncovered and wouldn't end up with ridiculous stallion deals like they do now...thus helping the breeder to create a better product.

Cannon Shell · #19 07-17-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't see it that way at all.

If you take drugs totally out of the equation...you're obviously left with no one to blame. The problem wouldn't exist.

Are you saying that YOU are the problem?

The Indomitable DrugS · #20 07-17-2007, 11:46 PM

I'm always the problem