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Old 07-22-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default 1st week of Del Mar/Poly

I got lucky and hit a big super on Friday, but I will stop and watch the rest of the meet. I never thought I would say "I can't wait till Fairplex opens".

Finding winners has got alot harder and it will take time to find the real trends.
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Old 07-22-2007, 09:59 PM
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Fairplex is tough because not every horse likes a 5 furlong oval.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:13 PM
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I have a theory , Im not a gambler but from watching the races on the Poly at Del Mar you need to be looking at the horses that run consistant fractions of twelve , horses that run twelves for the eigths but cant catch the front speed are the horses that seem to be doing the best . I would stay away from the speed trainers like Baffert and Headley and some of those other guys, their horses are going to have to be a hell of alot fitter to be competetitive on this surface .
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:25 PM
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the good news is they have fixed the horse breakdown problem. bad news is, now the people are breaking down.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:38 AM
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the good news is they have fixed the horse breakdown problem. bad news is, now the people are breaking down.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:18 PM
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The kickback at Del Mar fails in comparision to the kickback at Turfway during their winter/spring meet.

I have been watching races on Polytrack and Cushion track all year. Like most people on here have said, the horse you select has got to be in shape. You also need a horse that sustains his/her speed throughout the entire race. Look for horses who have consistance works over the surface. Don't look for a bullet and then a work just to stretch the horses legs. It also appears than favorites win less often on a synthetic track than they do on a dirt track. Like Honu said, stay away from the speed trainers. I also ignore the 2nd and 3rd off layoff angle as well. I want a horse who has been consistanly racing or training.

I still struggle at times with the surface, but I feel as if I am getting better at capping the synthetic tracks.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:32 PM
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I have a theory , Im not a gambler but from watching the races on the Poly at Del Mar you need to be looking at the horses that run consistant fractions of twelve , horses that run twelves for the eigths but cant catch the front speed are the horses that seem to be doing the best . I would stay away from the speed trainers like Baffert and Headley and some of those other guys, their horses are going to have to be a hell of alot fitter to be competetitive on this surface .
I have been looking at the horses cutting back in distance (regardless if they appear to be just a router) and dropping in class.

I will watch the 12 second furlongs. Thanks
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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One thing they were saying on TVG that I thought was some good info was about horses coming in rested being at a big disadvantage. There used to be a thing where some trainers would kind of back off at the end of Hollywood to gear up for Del Mar but these horses are coming up short it seems this year.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:44 PM
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One thing they were saying on TVG that I thought was some good info was about horses coming in rested being at a big disadvantage. There used to be a thing where some trainers would kind of back off at the end of Hollywood to gear up for Del Mar but these horses are coming up short it seems this year.
Yes I have noticed that also. That and horses need works over the track. Hey J, have you noticed horses being more tired than you thought they should be after working on it for the first few times?
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I have a theory , Im not a gambler but from watching the races on the Poly at Del Mar you need to be looking at the horses that run consistant fractions of twelve , horses that run twelves for the eigths but cant catch the front speed are the horses that seem to be doing the best .
If a horse that's going beyond a mile over this surface, even a top class horse, is running 12 for each furlong, he's going way too fast and will bite the dust through the lane.

As an example, just take a look at the talentless April claimer Sun Boat, in his victory in the 8.5 furlong Grade 2 San Diego Stakes on Saturday.

After a quarter mile he was dead last, 10 lengths off of a 24.54 first quarter. So, basically, he ran his first quarter in the 26's. A couple of 13 and small change 1/8ths to start. From there he picked it up and ran a steady diet of eights in the mid-to-high 12's.

Had a horse in the San Diego ran 12 flat eights throughout the entire running of the race, he'd have won by about 20 lengths.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:32 AM
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Fairplex is tough because not every horse likes a 5 furlong oval.
The cheaper races are very formful.
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