Vick's Co-defendant gunna deal

[SCUDSBROTHER]

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Vick's World is imploding on him,and it is sweet.Don't feel sorry for any of this scum.They could rape,stab, shoot etc. someone you love,and laugh about it.They should all be in cages.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2952092

Vick's World is imploding on him,and it is sweet.Don't feel sorry for any of this scum.They could rape,stab, shoot etc. someone you love,and laugh about it.They should all be in cages.

i'm a white guy with a monkey as an internet icon.

i'm telling you that you have issues.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm a white guy with a monkey as an internet icon.

i'm telling you that you have issues.

That's about as useful as a belch.See,this is what amazes me.These are exactly the type that would not think twice about doing something violent.Suffering of others is totally unimportant to these guys,but I "got issues" for wanting to keep society protected from them? I don't think so.You got a problem of thinking bad things are gunna only happen to others.That's a common mindset.You cry after this scum does something.That's a mistake.People who willingly sit there and watch dogs get their necks destroyed are exactly the ones that feel nothing inside when they rape,stab,shoot,or even crush somebody's head with an aluminum bat.Watch this video.You wonder who could do this stuff? All 4 of these guys(Vick and his buddies) are very capable of doing this (without guilt.) They feel bad about it when they get caught,because they see people (they give a crap about) get upset.Until that point,they feel nothing.Just like they feel nothing when they see these dogs tearing each other up.Just like they feel nothing when they executed the losing dogs.

http://video.nbcsandiego.com/player/?id=119038

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's about as useful as a belch.See,this is what amazes me.These are exactly the type that would not think twice about doing something violent.Suffering of others is totally unimportant to these guys,but I "got issues" for wanting to keep society protected from them? I don't think so.You got a problem of thinking bad things are gunna only happen to others.That's a common mindset.You cry after this scum does something.That's a mistake.People who willingly sit there and watch dogs get their necks destroyed are exactly the ones that feel nothing inside when they rape,stab,shoot,or even crush somebody's head with an aluminum bat.

what color are empathetic people?

This does not look good for Vick now. His bud is going to talk.

God I pray to you every night. And I am going to tell you I sincerely believe Scuds is not a racist. He just hates white southerners like myself because we pray to you.

Nah... Scuds likes his animals. And I think he sees the height of cruelty when people take animals that dont know any better, and purposely cause them to suffer and get enjoyment out of it. I never understood the people that drug cats behind cars either. Its completely sickening. I think Scuds is saying "we" (as in people, not as in immortals such as yourself God) know what we are doing when making animals suffer and that takes a special kind of cruelty. They are completely innocent. Now white southerners on the other hand... Beat the hell out of em.

And yes yes go into the arguement of what people do to people, we have been around that bend before.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's about as useful as a belch.See,this is what amazes me.These are exactly the type that would not think twice about doing something violent.Suffering of others is totally unimportant to these guys,but I "got issues" for wanting to keep society protected from them? I don't think so.You got a problem of thinking bad things are gunna only happen to others.That's a common mindset.You cry after this scum does something.That's a mistake.People who willingly sit there and watch dogs get their necks destroyed are exactly the ones that feel nothing inside when they rape,stab,shoot,or even crush somebody's head with an aluminum bat.Watch this video.You wonder who could do this stuff? All 4 of these guys(Vick and his buddies) are very capable of doing this (without guilt.) They feel bad about it when they get caught,because they see people (they give a crap about) get upset.Until that point,they feel nothing.Just like they feel nothing when they see these dogs tearing each other up.Just like they feel nothing when they executed the losing dogs.

http://video.nbcsandiego.com/player/?id=119038

Do u apply this same thinking to me then because I don't care anything about the dogs fighting? I feel nothing when I watch the dogs die. I love horse racing but I don't feel anything when a horse breaks down and has to be destroyed. Ok, I take that back. I was upset for a few minutes when Go for Wand went down and when Lion Heart was injured. But only for a few minutes. So does this mean that I'm one that would also rape, stab, shoot, or even crush someone's head in with a bat? So far, I've never done any of those things and never had a thought to do them. But I need to know if it's in my future because apparently, if u don't feel anything for dogs or other animals, u can't feel anything for humans. Because animals and humans are one and the same. Right?

I also didn't feel anything when I sprayed the ants that had trailed into my house this afternoon. Yeah, rape surely can't be far behind.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Do u apply this same thinking to me then because I don't care anything about the dogs fighting? I feel nothing when I watch the dogs die. I love horse racing but I don't feel anything when a horse breaks down and has to be destroyed. Ok, I take that back. I was upset for a few minutes when Go for Wand went down and when Lion Heart was injured. But only for a few minutes. So does this mean that I'm one that would also rape, stab, shoot, or even crush someone's head in with a bat? So far, I've never done any of those things and never had a thought to do them. But I need to know if it's in my future because apparently, if u don't feel anything for dogs or other animals, u can't feel anything for humans. Because animals and humans are one and the same. Right?

I also didn't feel anything when I sprayed the ants that had trailed into my house this afternoon. Yeah, rape surely can't be far behind.

The bolded... are you serious? You feel nothing watching dogs tear each other apart knowing that people put them in the ring to watch them suffer? Dont mean to judge (but I will anyway) but I think that is strange. Most people I know do not like to watch animals purposely slaughtered for amusement. So I think your are the one a bit out there on this.

I had trouble putting a seagull down when I found it flopping around with a broken wing, trembling, with ants on it. I slit the gull's throat with my fishing knife and the whole thing was perfectly awful. The animal was suffering. I dont like to see animals suffer. Furthermore, I dont like to watch people suffer. I find this even more revolting and sad. But I clearly think there is something different about a person that feels "nothing" watching an animal suffer needlessly.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Do u apply this same thinking to me then because I don't care anything about the dogs fighting? I feel nothing when I watch the dogs die. I love horse racing but I don't feel anything when a horse breaks down and has to be destroyed. Ok, I take that back. I was upset for a few minutes when Go for Wand went down and when Lion Heart was injured. But only for a few minutes. So does this mean that I'm one that would also rape, stab, shoot, or even crush someone's head in with a bat? So far, I've never done any of those things and never had a thought to do them. But I need to know if it's in my future because apparently, if u don't feel anything for dogs or other animals, u can't feel anything for humans. Because animals and humans are one and the same. Right?

I also didn't feel anything when I sprayed the ants that had trailed into my house this afternoon. Yeah, rape surely can't be far behind.

Well,it's real easy to say you don't care,but until you go and watch dogs squealing in pain,then you don't know if you could just sit there as that is going on.Anybody who can just sit there(as dogs squeal from being destroyed) is scum that could kill or rape without guilt.If you've been to these fights,and enjoyed it this way,then you are human garbage(like Vick.)

[King Glorious]

Scuds, I didn't say I enjoyed it. I said I don't feel anything. I've seen dog fighting and I just wasn't bothered by it. That doesn't mean I enjoyed it. It's not something I would look forward to attending on a Saturday night with the guys. I couldn't see myself ever deciding to attend because it doesn't bring me any pleasure. At the same time, it doesn't appal me either. I just find it interesting that from that, u can deduce that I could rape or kill a human being without guilt. The two aren't even remotely close.

Pgardn, I realize that I'm in the minority here and that's ok. I'm not even suggesting that anyone should feel the same way I feel or that it's even normal that I feel the way I do. Perhaps I'm missing something if I'm not turned off by it. But I'm just not. I am the same way with horses. I love the sport. I love watching the horses run and the efforts they put forth. But I can't stand horses. I don't like to even be near them. I remember a friend of mine wanted to actually fight me after a horse we had bet on broke down in the stretch and I was more concerned with who won the race than the horse that broke down. He asked me if I felt bad because the horse that I was betting on died while trying to earn us money. I didn't. Why? I don't know but I just didn't. I understand that most people involved in the sport are actual horse people and love the animals. I can respect that and I do try and be respectful of their feelings when something happens to one, especially one that they were attatched too. But they can never seem to respect that not everyone is like them. They seem to think that since they love animals, everyone should and if u don't, then u are no different than a rapist or a murder. That's what pisses me off. I don't judge them for what they feel but they are quick to judge me. It pisses me off that Scuds, who's never met me in life, can tell me that I am the type of person that could kill or rape a human being simply because I don't have the same feelings as he does about animals.

[Danzig]

actually, i have seen studies that many violent criminals lack the ability to feel empathy for others. doesn't mean that everyone who lacks those sensitivities will become a criminal tho. but there is a correlation between violence to animals leading to violence against humans. i doubt vick feels any more empathy for a woman yelling at him than at a dog in pain, wonder if he smacks his girls around too?

Mr. KIng I respect your honesty a great deal.

And I am not going to get into morality and philosophy.

Yes you are imo, in the minority. I will be honest with my thoughts. I think a person is a bit off if they dont feel a thing watching an animal suffer needlessly. Especially mammals as they are very much like us. Its not an alive v. dead issue as much as suffering. I dont think this necessarily makes you a bad or a good person. But I am very curious as to how (upbringing, etc...) you are actually able to not feel a thing. And I would agree with the correlation Z stated above.

King and Repent sound a whole lot alike... thats curious.

[Danzig]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2952607

another article regarding the plea, and possible further charges forthcoming....

[Independent George]

Don't be surprised at anything King Glorious says. He is beyond cold-hearted. Only someone without an ounce of sensitivity or huamnity would feel nothing when viewing a dogs maiming each other for the sport of others, or when seeing a horse break down....any horse. But he loves to be controversial & he loves to disagree, but he is a mental midget. You're best bet is to ignore him....thats one thing he is sensitive about.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Independent George

Don't be surprised at anything King Glorious says. He is beyond cold-hearted. Only someone without an ounce of sensitivity or huamnity would feel nothing when viewing a dogs maiming each other for the sport of others, or when seeing a horse break down....any horse. But he loves to be controversial & he loves to disagree, but he is a mental midget. You're best bet is to ignore him....thats one thing he is sensitive about.

If it were humans, I WOULD feel something. To say I don't have any humanity when it's animals u are talking about doesn't make much sense.

Something interesting Pgardn said. He said that my opinion doesn't necessarily make me a good or bad person. I appreciate that. But to be honest, I would agree with those that say there is often a correlation between those that feel the way I do and those that would be apt to commit worse crimes. And to further that, I would also say that I'd agree that more often than not, those that feel the way I do are bad people overall. But that doesn't mean that we all are. I was brought up seeing dog and cock fighting on a regular basis. I never enjoyed it. There's also the possibility that when I first saw it, I was disgusted by it although it was so long ago that I don't remember. Afterwhile though, u just become desensitized to it. It happens all the time. Imagine if u lived in Darfur and had to see the dead bodies everyday, some of them your friends and family. At first, u would be horrified. But if u see it everyday, it doesn't have the same impact on u. This is very common in the ghettos of North America also. It's sad that this happens but it happens nonetheless.

Nobody is looking to be controversial at all. I'm not trying to disagree or argue with anyone either. I can't argue their opinion or how they feel. I can, however, argue facts. And the fact is that there are plenty of people out there that are like me that don't have a feeling about it either way but at the same time, don't condone it. And it doesn't mean that all of us are scum and a step away from being ready to rape or murder another human.

U know what is interesting is that ultimate fighting and mixed martial arts are two of the fastest growing sports in the country. I refuse to watch it at all or let my kids watch it because I feel that it's barbaric and dangerous. I could easily sit here and pass judgement on those that watch that stuff and say that they are cruel and sadistic people for enjoying watching two humans beat the hell out of each other, watching their faces get swollen up, blood all over the place, guys get put into comas, etc. But that's not for me to say. Everyone decides what they can accept and what they can't. Everyone decides what they enjoy and what they don't.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If it were humans, I WOULD feel something. To say I don't have any humanity when it's animals u are talking about doesn't make much sense.

Something interesting Pgardn said. He said that my opinion doesn't necessarily make me a good or bad person. I appreciate that. But to be honest, I would agree with those that say there is often a correlation between those that feel the way I do and those that would be apt to commit worse crimes. And to further that, I would also say that I'd agree that more often than not, those that feel the way I do are bad people overall. But that doesn't mean that we all are. I was brought up seeing dog and cock fighting on a regular basis. I never enjoyed it. There's also the possibility that when I first saw it, I was disgusted by it although it was so long ago that I don't remember. Afterwhile though, u just become desensitized to it. It happens all the time. Imagine if u lived in Darfur and had to see the dead bodies everyday, some of them your friends and family. At first, u would be horrified. But if u see it everyday, it doesn't have the same impact on u. This is very common in the ghettos of North America also. It's sad that this happens but it happens nonetheless.

Nobody is looking to be controversial at all. I'm not trying to disagree or argue with anyone either. I can't argue their opinion or how they feel. I can, however, argue facts. And the fact is that there are plenty of people out there that are like me that don't have a feeling about it either way but at the same time, don't condone it. And it doesn't mean that all of us are scum and a step away from being ready to rape or murder another human.

U know what is interesting is that ultimate fighting and mixed martial arts are two of the fastest growing sports in the country. I refuse to watch it at all or let my kids watch it because I feel that it's barbaric and dangerous. I could easily sit here and pass judgement on those that watch that stuff and say that they are cruel and sadistic people for enjoying watching two humans beat the hell out of each other, watching their faces get swollen up, blood all over the place, guys get put into comas, etc. But that's not for me to say. Everyone decides what they can accept and what they can't. Everyone decides what they enjoy and what they don't.

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

Well,if I even barely step on a dogs paw,they loudly squeal.So,you can imagine the sounds these people are able to put up with in these matches.If you can tolerate that,then you can tolerate human suffering.I am not buying the argument that it would bother him if it was human suffering.Why would he tell you what he really feels? DUH..........You know they have this thing in Ohio that they used to do.They have a ring of people surrounding foxes,and they have their kids beat up the foxes with sticks.The argument is that these people can do this,but would stop when it comes to doing it to humans.I don't buy it.You either find suffering disgusting,or you don't.If you can tolerate dogfighting,then you can easily tolerate human suffering. They can sell this "I got my limits" crap all they want,but I am not buying their garbage.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right about the de-sensitizing, as well as that not all who can't empathize being criminals. it's just part of it--most criminals also couldn't care less about morality, legality, etc.
very honest post. i also agree about the extreme fighting and such, not something i would enjoy. i don't even like boxing.

i agree with your take on this one Danzig. The only thing I'll add is that humans that decide to enter the ring do so of their own choice. A dog or a rooster doesn't.