bravo mr paulick, bloodhorse

[Danzig]

for having the guts to say what so many others won't. for facing the elephant in the corner that no one wants to acknowledge!! for calling out the jockeys guild on their rotten decision to replace that joke gertmenian with not one, but two people with NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER about this industry.

jockeys better look to themselves, for the devil is loose ( for those wondering where THAT came from, see king phillipe auguste and his note to prince john when king richard lionheart was headed home!)

[blackthroatedwind]

To be fair, Steve Crist beat him to the punch, but I wholeheartedly agree that both of them should be congratulated for voicing their opinions about this issue ( I'm sure it helps that we also happen to agree with them ).

Racing needs more voices speaking out about the game. Ray's recent articles about the other Jackson, involving unethical practices in the horse sales, were especially good and a great step for Bloodhorse.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

To be fair, Steve Crist beat him to the punch, but I wholeheartedly agree that both of them should be congratulated for voicing their opinions about this issue ( I'm sure it helps that we also happen to agree with them ).

Racing needs more voices speaking out about the game. Ray's recent articles about the other Jackson, involving unethical practices in the horse sales, were especially good and a great step for Bloodhorse.

Yeah, I liked that article as well, blackthroatwind.....I cringe everytime I hear a story about some bloodstock agent or trainer setting up a deal to screw owners in our game with kick-back deals...makes me nauseated...and the sad thing is that I hear about it ALL the time and I think many people would be VERY surprised about the figures in our sport that have participated in this....

I hope Jackson nails all of their asses to the wall if indeed they are guilty of the allegations......In my opinion, this sport has several issues but one of the most important is the protection of owners from these type of predators and opportunists.....OWNERS ARE THE LIFE BLOOD OF THIS INDUSTRY, they pay all the relavent bills and fund occupations for just about everybody involved in the industry, really, especially trainers, bloodstock agents, etc....

This game is a losing proposition from an investor's standpoint 9-out of-10 times, yet when we lure in great people like Jess Jackson to invest millions and millions of dollars into our industry, What do we do?....we rip them off on countless occassions - and the sad thing is that it was the people whom he hired to confide in.......it is a shame and I am truly embarrased for our sport everytime I read about or hear about these dealings.....Really smart idea to pisss off the guy who owns Kendall-Jackson winery and can help secure our game as a premier investor for years to come....Smart..I'm sure he has a really good taste in his mouth about our game now....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

what about jt lundy and calumet..that made me so mad i wanted to give him a beating..

[blackthroatedwind]

There are so many disgraceful things about this issue it's hard to know where to start. Here's a guy willing to invest tens, if not hundreds, of millions in the game and people can't steal his money fast enough. If they just waited around they could get the same dollars, if not more, but dealing with him legitimately. So everybody loses.

However, sadly some of the blame goes to the many owners who know they are getting ripped off and are too embarrassed to go public. The parasites stealing from them count on this. Look how long it too Satish Sanan to make accusations. Hopefully the allegations by Jess Jackson and Satish Sanan will make it easier for others to come forward.

Sport of Kings.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

thats the other guy...dwl did a number on that one time rich guy..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

thats the other guy...dwl did a number on that one time rich guy..

DWL does a number on all his horses

[blackthroatedwind]

Oh, I think Satish is still pretty wealthy.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There are so many disgraceful things about this issue it's hard to know where to start. Here's a guy willing to invest tens, if not hundreds, of millions in the game and people can't steal his money fast enough. If they just waited around they could get the same dollars, if not more, but dealing with him legitimately. So everybody loses.

However, sadly some of the blame goes to the many owners who know they are getting ripped off and are too embarrassed to go public. The parasites stealing from them count on this. Look how long it too Satish Sanan to make accusations. Hopefully the allegations by Jess Jackson and Satish Sanan will make it easier for others to come forward.

Sport of Kings.

That's got to be very true. These people are worth tens of millions and if they cannot get a fair shake, ..... Maye they're just stung so hard that all they wanted to do is to be made whole and get the hell out. I don't imagine they'd be looking to make a story out of it, but I might be wrong. It's got to leave a very bad taste for people like this who take a sporting interest in racing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

To be fair, Steve Crist beat him to the punch, but I wholeheartedly agree that both of them should be congratulated for voicing their opinions about this issue ( I'm sure it helps that we also happen to agree with them ).

Racing needs more voices speaking out about the game. Ray's recent articles about the other Jackson, involving unethical practices in the horse sales, were especially good and a great step for Bloodhorse.

must have missed the crist article...so my applause to him as well. they danced around the issue a bit the other day on t.v., but seemed as tho no one really wanted to be critical--at least i felt that was the case. and yeah, it does help that we agree (well, me and you to this point, i must read on...). i just feel, after all the attention and a congressional hearing, that it would be in the guilds best interest to find the absolute BEST person they could. i feel they failed, and failed the jockeys as a result. maybe i will read a point of view different from mine, with reasons why i'm wrong....i really wouldn't mind being wrong about this!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

must have missed the crist article...so my applause to him as well. they danced around the issue a bit the other day on t.v., but seemed as tho no one really wanted to be critical--at least i felt that was the case. and yeah, it does help that we agree (well, me and you to this point, i must read on...). i just feel, after all the attention and a congressional hearing, that it would be in the guilds best interest to find the absolute BEST person they could. i feel they failed, and failed the jockeys as a result. maybe i will read a point of view different from mine, with reasons why i'm wrong....i really wouldn't mind being wrong about this!

I don't think you're wrong. Your spot on. They should have done what anyone else making a major hire does... engage a search firm to find the best candidates, interview several of them and make a hire with incentives a big part of the package. It seems ludicrous that the only two candidates came from inside sources and that there is not an hour of collective bargaining experience between them. Damn shame.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

for having the guts to say what so many others won't. for facing the elephant in the corner that no one wants to acknowledge!! for calling out the jockeys guild on their rotten decision to replace that joke gertmenian with not one, but two people with NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER about this industry.

jockeys better look to themselves, for the devil is loose ( for those wondering where THAT came from, see king phillipe auguste and his note to prince john when king richard lionheart was headed home!)

Mr Paulick's "Fool Me Twice" was very well written...bold, truthful.
Just my two pennies worth...but if the Jockey Guild really thinks these two will give them a "fair shake"...they have indeed been fooled twice.

"Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me."

Ray Paulik is good for our sport. Calls things as he sees them (which is almost always "right on"). LR