Guidry

[cakes44]

After that ride in the 10th yesterday at Churchill, it's time to retire, Mark. Speed and the rail were golden, so Mark hustles up to the lead, sets easy fractions for Churchill, then for some reason I cannot fathom, goes 5 wide into the stretch, letting the 1 and 2 finishers through on the golden rail, and he finishes third. Amazingly bad ride on the best horse in the race.

[Bobby Fischer]

The couple that passed him had an awful lot of horse IMO.

Guidry sure did take a wide path though. There was some pressure to his outside entering the turn, I wander if he was trying to take them wide? Not the greatest tactic, since the turn takes them wide anyway and the rail is a vulnerable spot.
Has Wilkes/Borel been on fire or what!?
I don't know , IMO Guidry would have needed to anticipate the the rail move (maybe he should have), and hope to intimidated/block with his horse and whip to hold on as good as they were finishing.
Also note the right hand action of Guidry in the stretch trying to get his horse to stop fading out , as well as the horses head looking a bit right... although all this was after the fact of going wide on the turn.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

well tha guids fortay has never been on frontrunners lol but there could be several reasons why that happened, anyways he is retiring at the end of this meet

[The Bid]

Why would anyone anticipate a fellow pinhead taking the shortest and winning route home, that being the rail.

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

[cakes44]

BBB is back baby! How many thousands did you win this weekend my man?

I'm not sure if some people on this board realize how lucky they are to be graced by the presence of your expertise(abeit in your own mind with imaginary redboards and tales of $30 pick 6s), but I definitely don't take it for granted.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

Guidry also started a 15 year drug binge in the 80's that kept him from being a very good rider.

He was far better when he was 20 than he has been for years. You left that part out.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

the same can be said about Sylvester Carmouche Jr and you.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Using generally accepted handicapping principles there is little, if any, evidence to support the theory that Banbury Cross was the "best" horse.

He was an unstarted maiden thirty days before Sundays race and even then debuted at Hoosier, one day before Keeneland opened. Trainers looking to earn purse money do not generally select a $14K purse over the rich $50K Keeneland pays, and Jeff is a solid conditioner.

Banbury Cross is a head case to say the least, but since you do not geld Storm Cat's, Jeff is doing the best he can. After winning at Hoosier, he was a good second at Keeneland despite acting like the fool he is, but was run down by a claimer coming off the shelf.

The best horse won the race. Five Star Dawn's last three are faster than that field had run, he needed his last yet came home very fast, in a rare flipped race. He was gelded prior to that effort and worked back very quickly.

As for Guidry, he took corrective action by tatooing the rogue repeatedly right handed. Tired horses drift, especially when Churchill is dry and all day Sunday riders' kept there mounts wide turning for home. Coming into the stretch the days winners were; 4wide, 2 wide, 5 wide, 4 wide, 6 wide 2 wide and 4 wide. Handicappers often disagree before a race, and occasionally after one, but this is cappin 101 stuff.

As for the respondent that called Guidry a pin head you are entitled to your opinion. Guidry started riding the bush tracks at nine years old, at sixteen he rode pari-mutuel also in Louisiana. He has ridden over 5,000 winners. He is articulate and a terrific advocate for the sport and will be a steward in the very near future. Smart money says he is a better rider than you are a handicapper, whoever you are. BBB

If the trainer is smart, and he knows his horse with a lot of speed and lacking perhaps in stamina needs a race ASAP, he isn't sending him to Keeneland.

[Alan07]

Originally Posted by cakes44

After that ride in the 10th yesterday at Churchill, it's time to retire, Mark. Speed and the rail were golden, so Mark hustles up to the lead, sets easy fractions for Churchill, then for some reason I cannot fathom, goes 5 wide into the stretch, letting the 1 and 2 finishers through on the golden rail, and he finishes third. Amazingly bad ride on the best horse in the race.

He will on Saturday