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Old 11-25-2007, 07:28 PM
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:35 AM
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Bullish Luck to miss HK Cup as injury hits


ALAN AITKEN


Horses headed for the internationals have always seemed to have some sort of curse hanging over them and this year is no different, with four expected runners having fallen by the wayside - now including Bullish Luck.

Packing Winner did not get as far as an invitation after a tendon injury, the New Zealand stayer Scupltor has now been injured and will not come and apparently connections of Syllabus will miss the Vase as well.

But trainer Tony Cruz reported that the tungsten-tough legs of Bullish Luck have finally started to show some age and he has suffered a suspected hairline fracture to a knee.

"He's always raced on the hardest tracks - he's needed the hardest tracks to show his best - and he's had plenty of racing," Cruz said. "He won't retire but he will have some box rest for a few weeks and then we'll see where we go from there."
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:58 AM
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A few weeks??!!! Theyre mad if they think he will totally recover and have his knee strong enough to race in a few weeks of box rest. More like 6 months.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:24 AM
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SCMP.....

Bullish Luck to miss HK Cup as injury hits


ALAN AITKEN


Horses headed for the internationals have always seemed to have some sort of curse hanging over them and this year is no different, with four expected runners having fallen by the wayside - now including Bullish Luck.

Packing Winner did not get as far as an invitation after a tendon injury, the New Zealand stayer Scupltor has now been injured and will not come and apparently connections of Syllabus will miss the Vase as well.

But trainer Tony Cruz reported that the tungsten-tough legs of Bullish Luck have finally started to show some age and he has suffered a suspected hairline fracture to a knee.

"He's always raced on the hardest tracks - he's needed the hardest tracks to show his best - and he's had plenty of racing," Cruz said. "He won't retire but he will have some box rest for a few weeks and then we'll see where we go from there."
Who his trainer is tells me all I need to know. I wish the best for Bullish Luck. Maybe his owners will be more insistent about this horse's well being.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:18 AM
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Is Cruz notorious?
He was Silent Witness's trainer and kept running the horse when there was something obviously wrong with him. This was at the end of SW's career, but that horse owed no one anything. The owners allowed Cruz to continue on with SW, which under those particular circumstances, should have been handled differently. Silent Witness deserved way better than he got. Just my opinion here.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:29 AM
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He was Silent Witness's trainer and kept running the horse when there was something obviously wrong with him. This was at the end of SW's career, but that horse owed no one anything. The owners allowed Cruz to continue on with SW, which under those particular circumstances, should have been handled differently. Silent Witness deserved way better than he got. Just my opinion here.
To be fair, you have given one instance. You might be right, you might be wrong, but you can't say for sure it is the trainers fault after two horses he has trained have 'gone wrong'

Hundreds of trainers would probably have done the same thing as Cruz did with SW. I very much doubt any trainer (well, maybe i can think of one or two) who would continue to train a horse if they honestly thought the horse was suffering from something.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:37 AM
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To be fair, you have given one instance. You might be right, you might be wrong, but you can't say for sure it is the trainers fault after two horses he has trained have 'gone wrong'
The De Silvas were bullied.

Thea knows the story too.

Tony is the King..... you need to truly understand the hierarchy over there to grasp how much power he has, or had.....

He's losing it a bit now.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:32 AM
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He was Silent Witness's trainer and kept running the horse when there was something obviously wrong with him. This was at the end of SW's career, but that horse owed no one anything. The owners allowed Cruz to continue on with SW, which under those particular circumstances, should have been handled differently. Silent Witness deserved way better than he got. Just my opinion here.
Well you know me and that I share the opinion.....

The De Silva's wanted Silent Witness retired not once but twice. He, like Bullish Luck, was never the same after Japan.

Both had picked up viruses there.

Bullish had an injury but that didn't stop Tony.

Cruz did a really good job in ruining a lovely horse, Russian Pearl. There have been a few that he's run into the ground. A shame.

I say this as a former fan.

I don't know much about anything but one thing I follow religously is HK racing.

I've said this before..... shame on him.

I wouldn't have heard about this but for my quirk of checking on him, making sure he did his swimming etc.

I emailed a friend on the SCMP and jokingly said hey what's up with Bullish man, no swimming in four days?

Not the answer I was expecting.

Hopefully they do what's right by him, whatever that is.

He's a hero, a legend, and God knows this old warrior deserves to get the hell out of HK now and go somewhere nice where the air is less polluted and there's a little space.

I love this horse.
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Well, if that is true about Cruz, he will be training for Godolphin in no time.

Those sort of trainers make me mad.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:29 PM
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Well you know me and that I share the opinion.....

The De Silva's wanted Silent Witness retired not once but twice. He, like Bullish Luck, was never the same after Japan.

Both had picked up viruses there.

Bullish had an injury but that didn't stop Tony.

Cruz did a really good job in ruining a lovely horse, Russian Pearl. There have been a few that he's run into the ground. A shame.

I say this as a former fan.

I don't know much about anything but one thing I follow religously is HK racing.

I've said this before..... shame on him.

I wouldn't have heard about this but for my quirk of checking on him, making sure he did his swimming etc.

I emailed a friend on the SCMP and jokingly said hey what's up with Bullish man, no swimming in four days?

Not the answer I was expecting.

Hopefully they do what's right by him, whatever that is.

He's a hero, a legend, and God knows this old warrior deserves to get the hell out of HK now and go somewhere nice where the air is less polluted and there's a little space.

I love this horse.

I knew you would remember the discussions we had on the other forum about SW, Tony Cruz and the DaSilvas when all that was going down. There's no one on any forum that I read that knows as much about international racing as you, as well as your love for these horses. I'm really glad to hear that Tony Cruz is losing some of his power. He's surely had some nice horses. I could not understand then (the DaSilvas) and still don't grasp how a trainer could override an owner or owners, but it certainly happened in that case. Silent Witness had some mysterious virus that, if I remember correctly, was never fully identified because there was little or no follow through with tests. Then, he was running down on his "bumpers", but they still kept at it because Cruz wanted SW to retire with "dignity". Proceeding with racing him in the condition he was in precluded any achievement of "dignity". He just wasn't the same horse.
I hope Bullish Luck comes through and heals in record time for you, MMSC. If it's not to be, though, I would hope the connections will stand firm and put the horse first. He sounds like a very special guy.
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