Doc Cheney

blackthroatedwind · #1 12-28-2007, 03:32 PM

This horse has been the source of some pretty outrageous claims recently on this board. Well, he's running in tomorrow's first race at Aqueduct. Now, he is probably in too tough, and is being ridden by the worst rider at Aqueduct ( if not the entire country ) in Felix Ortiz, but even if only for educational purposes, I recommend that you carefully watch the replay of his last race. I think it will refute the silly notion that he didn't run well. My guess? With even a professional jockey he would have won and it is hard to deny that he was at least close to the best horse in that race.

Maybe he'll get another boneheaded ride tomorrow and then get a rider switch, Rudy Rodriguez would be a huge move up, and find a good spot for the following race.

SentToStud · #2 12-28-2007, 05:38 PM

Doc Cheney, Birdbirdistheword turfing at Calder and SweetNorthernSaint sprinting at Turfway. They're all intersting races.

blackthroatedwind · #3 12-28-2007, 05:41 PM

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Doc Cheney, Birdbirdistheword turfing at Calder and SweetNorthernSaint sprinting at Turfway. They're all intersting races.

I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.

declansharbor · #4 12-28-2007, 05:46 PM

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I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.

Does this mean that you expect him to outrun his m/l odds tomorrow?
I certainly do.

blackthroatedwind · #5 12-28-2007, 05:56 PM

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Does this mean that you expect him to outrun his m/l odds tomorrow?
I certainly do.

I don't know what his morning line is but I expect to lose a few bucks on him.

It's a tricky race.

the_fat_man · #6 12-28-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.

Yeah, it's the typical JOhnny Vee turf ride. Was he on?

blackthroatedwind · #7 12-28-2007, 06:33 PM

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Yeah, it's the typical JOhnny Vee turf ride. Was he on?

Albarado....but you're right, it looked like Johnny.

SentToStud · #8 12-28-2007, 08:13 PM

I thought Albarado blew the first 1/8, then the horse was doomed. I thought he was as wide on the first turn as the second.

Interesting race. Locals are hopeless, save Stom In May. There is no known method of quantifying Juan Leyva off.

2MinsToPost · #9 12-29-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.

Eddie Casto again takes the cake when I pass on him.

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #10 12-29-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This horse has been the source of some pretty outrageous claims recently on this board. Well, he's running in tomorrow's first race at Aqueduct. Now, he is probably in too tough, and is being ridden by the worst rider at Aqueduct ( if not the entire country ) in Felix Ortiz, but even if only for educational purposes, I recommend that you carefully watch the replay of his last race. I think it will refute the silly notion that he didn't run well. My guess? With even a professional jockey he would have won and it is hard to deny that he was at least close to the best horse in that race.

Maybe he'll get another boneheaded ride tomorrow and then get a rider switch, Rudy Rodriguez would be a huge move up, and find a good spot for the following race.

oh god, the ride didnt cost him the race and the horse that won was much the best that day. why i even bother responding i dont know. howbout the day he was claimed for 25k and was pulled up early that day? YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS NEVER SORE WHILE WITH NICK ZITO, LOL SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #11 12-29-2007, 10:55 AM

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oh god, the ride didnt cost him the race and the horse that won was much the best that day. why i even bother responding i dont know. howbout the day he was claimed for 25k and was pulled up early that day? YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS NEVER SORE WHILE WITH NICK ZITO, LOL SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?

yes i have nothing better to do with my time then come here and lie/make outrageous claims, thats why the horse was dropped in for a tag to get claimed and got pulled up that day, DC is the soundest thing on the grounds solely cuz he comes from the NZ barn

blackthroatedwind · #12 01-25-2008, 02:56 PM

I assume everybody got fat.

Funny, he didn't look lame today with a different rider.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #13 01-25-2008, 03:06 PM

yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason

blackthroatedwind · #14 01-25-2008, 03:10 PM

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yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason

The whole thing is laughable......and frankly stands as a great example of the foolishness of so-called " backstretch info " versus watching races and handicapping. To anyobe who understands race watching, Doc Cheney ran very well in both his last two starts, and couldn't overcome bad race riding and circumstance. Today he had a new rider and a race filled with pace on a track that seemed to be playing at least somewhat fair.

It took a great ride to win it, and he certainly is no superstar, but if you paid attention you cashed. And, of course, didn't pay attention to absurd supposed backstretch jabber.

fpsoxfan · #15 01-25-2008, 05:43 PM

Nice Job Andy. I wish I had remembered this thread!! I totally forgot about this horse. 5-1 was pretty nice. Would have been higher had the entry scratched. Got a terrible ride last time out. Nice ride this time!

blackthroatedwind · #16 01-25-2008, 05:46 PM

Thanks. It was a great ride. The horse deserved it after the last two horrible rides it got.