BCS shafted Mizzou and the fans....

[rontheman1964]

Watching Georgia pound Hawaii and thinking how much better this game would have been if Missouri was in Hawaii's place. Is it Missouri's fault that this year 3 of the top 10 teams play in the Big 12 conference?

Heck, I would have welcomed the idea of them playing in the Rose Bowl instead of watching the Illini struggle to get out of their own way.

I even heard Oklahoma offered to go to the Orange Bowl this year instead of making their second straight trip to the Fiesta Bowl and give their fans a change of scenery. The conference money would be the same since they would take Kansas' place and send the Jayhawks to the Fiesta instead. Plus they are the higher BCS seed and they would face the higher seed in Va Tech. Alas, the BCS ruled against this idea. I think afraid of schools setting up their own "highest rated opponent" and setting the groundwork of the fans and media wanting the next step....a playoff.

One more complaint. If the BCS is worried about one conference getting too many teams in the BCS games; why aren't they the least concerned about where teams play? Why have conference ties? Is anyone else tired of watcing USC play a home game in the Rose Bowl? Wouldn't you love to see a good SEC team show up to play USC instead of an average Big 10 team? Or better yet, send USC to the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC team? It's as bad as when a team had to go to the Orange Bowl to play one of the schools from Florida.

Well, that's about it for tonite. The rest of the BCS games look pretty predictable as far as who will win; it's just a matter of the pointspreads.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Watching Georgia pound Hawaii and thinking how much better this game would have been if Missouri was in Hawaii's place. Is it Missouri's fault that this year 3 of the top 10 teams play in the Big 12 conference?

Heck, I would have welcomed the idea of them playing in the Rose Bowl instead of watching the Illini struggle to get out of their own way.

I even heard Oklahoma offered to go to the Orange Bowl this year instead of making their second straight trip to the Fiesta Bowl and give their fans a change of scenery. The conference money would be the same since they would take Kansas' place and send the Jayhawks to the Fiesta instead. Plus they are the higher BCS seed and they would face the higher seed in Va Tech. Alas, the BCS ruled against this idea. I think afraid of schools setting up their own "highest rated opponent" and setting the groundwork of the fans and media wanting the next step....a playoff.

One more complaint. If the BCS is worried about one conference getting too many teams in the BCS games; why aren't they the least concerned about where teams play? Why have conference ties? Is anyone else tired of watcing USC play a home game in the Rose Bowl? Wouldn't you love to see a good SEC team show up to play USC instead of an average Big 10 team? Or better yet, send USC to the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC team? It's as bad as when a team had to go to the Orange Bowl to play one of the schools from Florida.

Well, that's about it for tonite. The rest of the BCS games look pretty predictable as far as who will win; it's just a matter of the pointspreads.

i heard a very good explaination of this in the last 2 weeks. SOME of the playoff problem and MOST of the conference tie in, is the Pac-10. it was explained that the Pac-10 wants that Rose Bowl Big-10 tie and won't listen to anything else and the Rose Bowl reps are lock-step with the Pac-10. so Illinois lands there when there were better games possible. Pac-10 is even opposed to the plus 1 game. as much as i love college football it's REALLY turned into a big joke.

[jpops757]

Conspiracy, the real reason for all the bowls and no playoffs? The NFL.$$$$$$$$. How much national attention is generated by 90% of the bowl games. If they were part of a system to determine the Nat Champ, what a cash cow. This would move the NFL from the front page and dilute from the nfl and there money hold.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jpops757

Conspiracy, the real reason for all the bowls and no playoffs? The NFL.$$$$$$$$. How much national attention is generated by 90% of the bowl games. If they were part of a system to determine the Nat Champ, what a cash cow. This would move the NFL from the front page and dilute from the nfl and there money hold.

32 nfl teams.
over 120 1-a teams, and half get a bowl berth. how large of a post season would there be to include that amount to make up for loss of a bowl.

good luck with that.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

32 nfl teams.
over 120 1-a teams, and half get a bowl berth. how large of a post season would there be to include that amount to make up for loss of a bowl.

good luck with that.

You keep the bowl system and have a 16 team playoff. Play the round of 16 on Thanksgiving weekend and the round of 8 the following week at the sites of the higher ranked teams. You then use two bowls for the semi-finals and populate all the remaining bowls using the teams that didn't qualify for the playoffs along with the 12 teams already eliminated from the playoffs. The week following New Years you have the National Championship Game. Now there's your cash cow.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You keep the bowl system and have a 16 team playoff. Play the round of 16 on Thanksgiving weekend and the round of 8 the following week at the sites of the higher ranked teams. You then use two bowls for the semi-finals and populate all the remaining bowls using the teams that didn't qualify for the playoffs along with the 12 teams already eliminated from the playoffs. The week following New Years you have the National Championship Game. Now there's your cash cow.

Wont work.
All the diff. Bowl's would have to vie for the playoff games.
You have to deal with the Bowl committee's and the University
Presidents and AD's. This is a cash cow as it stands right now.
The bowl games have made huge amounts of money this year.

Then you have the problem of a "home game" being given to a lower seed.
The Rose Bowl will not go away. Which of the playoff games do you give the Rose Bowl? Tis a mess. Heck its not just the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, they all want their piece. And they got their piece right now. I dont know how one would divy up the playoff games thru these entities (this includes the NCAA) that control everything. There is no single TV network that can come in and say hey you guys lets straighten this thing out with a playoff system and we can all make more money.
If say... NBC tried this, the Bowl would just go to a diff TV network and say NBC no longer is in the running for the money our Bowl will generate, the bidding is now between... it is a real mess.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Watching Georgia pound Hawaii and thinking how much better this game would have been if Missouri was in Hawaii's place. Is it Missouri's fault that this year 3 of the top 10 teams play in the Big 12 conference?

Heck, I would have welcomed the idea of them playing in the Rose Bowl instead of watching the Illini struggle to get out of their own way.

I even heard Oklahoma offered to go to the Orange Bowl this year instead of making their second straight trip to the Fiesta Bowl and give their fans a change of scenery. The conference money would be the same since they would take Kansas' place and send the Jayhawks to the Fiesta instead. Plus they are the higher BCS seed and they would face the higher seed in Va Tech. Alas, the BCS ruled against this idea. I think afraid of schools setting up their own "highest rated opponent" and setting the groundwork of the fans and media wanting the next step....a playoff.

One more complaint. If the BCS is worried about one conference getting too many teams in the BCS games; why aren't they the least concerned about where teams play? Why have conference ties? Is anyone else tired of watcing USC play a home game in the Rose Bowl? Wouldn't you love to see a good SEC team show up to play USC instead of an average Big 10 team? Or better yet, send USC to the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC team? It's as bad as when a team had to go to the Orange Bowl to play one of the schools from Florida.

Well, that's about it for tonite. The rest of the BCS games look pretty predictable as far as who will win; it's just a matter of the pointspreads.

Nah, Hawaii earned their trip. They had a horrible game, it happens. Kansas getting in over Missouri was the real injustice.

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by philcski

Nah, Hawaii earned their trip. They had a horrible game, it happens. Kansas getting in over Missouri was the real injustice.

Hahaha, Hawaii even playing in a BCS Bowl is a joke and it showed last night. They were simply outmatched in every area, much like Illinois was USC's bitch. How great would it have been to have a playoff this year? The USC/OU Title game might have been the best game of the century.

The only way, and I mean ONLY way, we will ever see a playoff is if the fans boycott the games. No one show up and no one watch on tv until it gets done. That will never happen, so therefore there will never be a playoff.

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Hahaha, Hawaii even playing in a BCS Bowl is a joke and it showed last night. They were simply outmatched in every area, much like Illinois was USC's bitch. How great would it have been to have a playoff this year? The USC/OU Title game might have been the best game of the century.

The only way, and I mean ONLY way, we will ever see a playoff is if the fans boycott the games. No one show up and no one watch on tv until it gets done. That will never happen, so therefore there will never be a playoff.

Oklahoma? LOL

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Oklahoma? LOL

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

I think if there was an 8-team playoff that Georgia and USC would be in the championship game depending on if they're on opposite sides of the bracket. Georgia hasn't lost a game since early October due, in large part, to the game to game improvement of Knowshown Moreno. He's arguably the best running back in the SEC since Herschel Walker.

[Oaklawnfan]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

I totally agree. USC and Oklahoma are probably the two best in the country. My Mizzou Tigers should have played in the Orange Bowl and KU should have played Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl. As for my beloved Warriors, they should have stayed out of the Quarter.
If you have or ever get to enjoy a Game Day Saturday in Hawai'i, it's the best. It starts really early in the morning at the local sports pub eating a moco loco with some brews watching live horseracing on the mainland on sat. tv. Bets are being laid down on laptops off-shore. Then it's on to the parking lot at the stadium for more brews. That's what I call Aloha!

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

Hahaha, what a dumb ass I am..... Dead wrong on this one. Wow, talking about being manhandled, WV shoved them around all night.... But at the end of it all, both teams are going home today. Of course, one team is happy, the other not, but neither team is moving on to next week.

[Samarta]

I think Hawaii earned the trip as well. I think the one thing that everyone is missing here is that score would have been the same regardless of the opponent. I'm not a Georgia fan at all, but I think they were/are hands down the best team in the nation now. I don't think it was as much as Hawaii not deserving to be there as much as it was they were playing the best team in the nation.

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by Samarta

I think Hawaii earned the trip as well. I think the one thing that everyone is missing here is that score would have been the same regardless of the opponent. I'm not a Georgia fan at all, but I think they were/are hands down the best team in the nation now. I don't think it was as much as Hawaii not deserving to be there as much as it was they were playing the best team in the nation.

So beating the s*** out of Hawaii makes you the best team in the country? Guess that's what it is, cuz they weren't even the best in their own conference.

[Oaklawnfan]

Mizzou should have been in the Orange Bowl. Kansas should have played Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Oklahoma should have played USC in the BCS Championship and my beloved Warriors should have stayed out of the Quarter.
If you've never experienced it, the average Game Day Saturday in Hawaii starts early in the morning at the local sports bar with sat. tv watching horse racing and wagering off-shore on the laptop while downing a moco loco and some brews. Next stop the stadium parking lot for more brews.
Now that's what I call Aloha!

[Oaklawnfan]

Mizzou should have been in the Orange Bowl. Kansas should have played Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Oklahoma should have played USC in the BCS Championship and my beloved Warriors should have stayed out of the Quarter.
If you've never experienced it, the average Game Day Saturday in Hawaii starts early in the morning at the local sports bar with sat. tv watching horse racing and wagering off-shore on the laptop while downing a moco loco and some brews. Next stop the stadium parking lot for more brews.
Now that's what I call Aloha!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan

Mizzou should have been in the Orange Bowl. Kansas should have played Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Oklahoma should have played USC in the BCS Championship and my beloved Warriors should have stayed out of the Quarter.
If you've never experienced it, the average Game Day Saturday in Hawaii starts early in the morning at the local sports bar with sat. tv watching horse racing and wagering off-shore on the laptop while downing a moco loco and some brews. Next stop the stadium parking lot for more brews.
Now that's what I call Aloha!

arkansas in the sugar?! lol hell, they didn't even belong in the cotton.

mizzou should have gotten in rather than kansas imo. and they showed why vs the razorbacks. hell of a game.

as for hawaii, i was there to see them play louisiana tech, who gave the warriors all they could handle. i felt their record was what it was due to a soft schedule, and they proved it when facing a good team in GA.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Watching Georgia pound Hawaii and thinking how much better this game would have been if Missouri was in Hawaii's place. Is it Missouri's fault that this year 3 of the top 10 teams play in the Big 12 conference?

Heck, I would have welcomed the idea of them playing in the Rose Bowl instead of watching the Illini struggle to get out of their own way.

I even heard Oklahoma offered to go to the Orange Bowl this year instead of making their second straight trip to the Fiesta Bowl and give their fans a change of scenery. The conference money would be the same since they would take Kansas' place and send the Jayhawks to the Fiesta instead. Plus they are the higher BCS seed and they would face the higher seed in Va Tech. Alas, the BCS ruled against this idea. I think afraid of schools setting up their own "highest rated opponent" and setting the groundwork of the fans and media wanting the next step....a playoff.

One more complaint. If the BCS is worried about one conference getting too many teams in the BCS games; why aren't they the least concerned about where teams play? Why have conference ties? Is anyone else tired of watcing USC play a home game in the Rose Bowl? Wouldn't you love to see a good SEC team show up to play USC instead of an average Big 10 team? Or better yet, send USC to the Sugar Bowl to play an SEC team? It's as bad as when a team had to go to the Orange Bowl to play one of the schools from Florida.

Well, that's about it for tonite. The rest of the BCS games look pretty predictable as far as who will win; it's just a matter of the pointspreads.

when it was rumored last year that lsu would get a rose bowl berth, 50k fans down here pre-ordered tix. then they got the news that they were sugar bowl bound. talk about disappointment! change can be slow, but there have been some in the last few years-most notably the title game being separate from the four 'big bowls'. who knows what may happen next.