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Old 01-08-2008, 06:56 PM
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The Obama-Clinton-Edwards-Richardson straight superfecta looks like a 1/5 shot in the betting as far as the democratic race goes.

The scramble for 3rd between Paul, Huckabee, and Guliani looks like the most lively battle tonight.

Clinton is finally paying the price for her insane strategy of positioning herself to the right of every single candidate in this primary - it's almost as if no one explained to her that she could shift further right after she actually had her party opposition defeated.

I caught enough of a few early debates to come to this conclusion. And was amazed.

It certainly was not as dramatic as Joe Liberman's primary showing four years ago...when he refused to adjust and position himself further left while sharing the same stage with the likes of Kucinich, Carol Mosley-Braun, and Sharpton - thus quickly turning into a fringe candidate getting booed by members of his own party.

She probably could have overcome that tactical blunder if not for John Edwards keeping her feet to the flame - and doing so at his own expense - coming off way angrier than he's ever come off.

Of course, in '04, Dick Gephardt (who won the '88 Iowa primary previously) ran a tough and negative race against Howard Dean (who worked for Gephardt in '88) very much at his own expense. Those two had a seeming stronghold on the top two spots in Iowa until very late - when Kerry and Edwards took advantage of the hostile firefight, and made tremendous gains in the final two days to take the top two spots.

Basically, I think Clinton has put herself on the ropes because of tactical stupidity combined with Edwards taking the sacraficial position of going negative against her.

I think it's probably a lot more that than it is Obama turning it on late - as though all accounts in the press would suggest.

As for the Republicans - Huckabee - the once obese Arkansas Gov. who used to be a frequent Bill Maher guest when I watched him - he is smooth as silk and I didn't find his Iowa "upset" of Romney all that shocking.

I think he's far more a Jimmy Carter type than a bible beating type - and would love nothing more than to see him win the GOP nomination - which is almost an impossibility I would think.

From what I've seen - Romney has done and said everything perfect so far - sucks to be a mormon I guess.

McKean and Guliani are the two serious contenders - I don't like Guliani's strategy...but he really had no other choice.

To me - it looks like we have all the makings of an Obama V McKean match-up.

In a perfect world it would be Kucinich V Paul ...... but what can you do?
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:27 PM
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:36 PM
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Look, I'm trying to show I can top Cannon as far as versatility goes - it was Pakistan last week - poltical primaries this week - next week I might go an entire day without spelling anything wrong. Perhaps grammatically shine the week after - stay tuned.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:53 PM
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Look, I'm trying to show I can top Cannon as far as versatility goes - it was Pakistan last week - poltical primaries this week - next week I might go an entire day without spelling anything wrong. Perhaps grammatically shine the week after - stay tuned.
I felt this was an underrated effort:
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:22 PM
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Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:05 PM
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Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.

John Edwards in the shi**er
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:35 PM
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Hillary is kicking some ass in the early returns.

Maybe that whole last minute choking back tears moment in the late stages was a stroke of genius.

I'm waiting for Cannon to chime in though.
or maybe it's all the news about a campaign team shake up...
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:39 PM
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LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! SHE'S A HUMAN BEING!..ANYONE THAT PICKS ON HER WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME!...JUST STOP IT!....

My impression of that YOUTUBE nut job screaming about Bittany....not bad huh....
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:33 PM
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As for the Republicans - Huckabee - the once obese Arkansas Gov. who used to be a frequent Bill Maher guest when I watched him - he is smooth as silk and I didn't find his Iowa "upset" of Romney all that shocking.


Looks-wise, he reminds me of Kevin Spacey in American Beauty.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:17 PM
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Looks-wise, he reminds me of Kevin Spacey in American Beauty.
poor kevin spacey.
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Just waiting for Huckabee to say..I RULE!!
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:25 PM
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Pat Paulson has a heck of a chance this year.

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Old 01-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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Looks-wise, he reminds me of Kevin Spacey in American Beauty.
One worked out with the goal of banging an 18yo chick in mind (always a noble cause for sure!)

As you can see.....



The other worked out with the goal of becoming more viable to make a run at being the Republican version of Jimmy Carter.

I need to give it up with the politics. I already jinxed Obama.
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One worked out with the goal of banging an 18yo chick in mind (always a noble cause for sure!)

As you can see.....



The other worked out with the goal of becoming more viable to make a run at being the Republican version of Jimmy Carter.

I need to give it up with the politics. I already jinxed Obama.

huck got a law passed down here about vending machines in schools. high school kids are no longer allowed to buy a bag of chips out of the machines. he got skinny and wants everyone else to do the same--a noble cause for sure....of course studies showing kids gain weight in the summer while out of school, away from those horrible vending machines had no bearing. and let's not even talk about personal choice, as that has no bearing with mr huck. now i understand he wants a federal ban on smoking--it is bad for you, you know.

but then, some say the same about gambling, drinking, porn, trans fats, sodium, fried foods, sugar, etc etc. but i'm sure it's all for our own good.
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I think everyone needs to take a hard look at Duncan Hunter.

Anyone that has campaigned as long as he has without even an acknowledgement by the media must have some redeeming value..

If he would just cry or maybe scream out "...and we're going to Washington to take back the White House eeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

He might stand a chance.....
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I think everyone needs to take a hard look at Duncan Hunter.

Anyone that has campaigned as long as he has without even an acknowledgement by the media must have some redeeming value..

If he would just cry or maybe scream out "...and we're going to Washington to take back the White House eeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

He might stand a chance.....

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