Tampa Thursday: $39k Carryover

Bigsmc · #1 02-13-2008, 02:36 PM

I am livid. I was working on a post commenting on each horse in the Pick 6 with the intention of finding possible singles for tomorrows carryover. I finished the post, and was proofreading it when I lost my internet connection. When I got the internet going, I lost the post.

Took me all day to type it up in between work interruptions.

Depressing.

I may attempt an abbreviated version later.

tiggerv · #2 02-13-2008, 02:38 PM

I am assuming sloppy and off turf tomorrow?

Bigsmc · #3 02-13-2008, 02:39 PM

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I am assuming sloppy and off turf tomorrow?

I'm guessing off the turf and good dirt....possibly sloppy but it hasn't rained too much today and the sun is supposed to be out tomorrow. The main track is very sandy, drains well and dries quickly once the sun is out.

Rudeboyelvis · #4 02-13-2008, 07:57 PM

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I am livid. I was working on a post commenting on each horse in the Pick 6 with the intention of finding possible singles for tomorrows carryover. I finished the post, and was proofreading it when I lost my internet connection. When I got the internet going, I lost the post.

Took me all day to type it up in between work interruptions.

Depressing.

I may attempt an abbreviated version later.

ARRRRRRGHHH!!! Same thing happened to me early in the meet - I started doing them in Word and then copy/paste ever since...

Going to wait till tomorrow to see the scratches in the 7th and 10th before I invest too much time...At a quick glance, I've got a few ideas for the first two legs...the 8th race looks impossibly wide open though

Bigsmc · #5 02-13-2008, 08:21 PM

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ARRRRRRGHHH!!! Same thing happened to me early in the meet - I started doing them in Word and then copy/paste ever since...

Going to wait till tomorrow to see the scratches in the 7th and 10th before I invest too much time...At a quick glance, I've got a few ideas for the first two legs...the 8th race looks impossibly wide open though

Glad you have an opinion in the 6th, it is killing me.

Rudeboyelvis · #6 02-13-2008, 08:51 PM

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Glad you have an opinion in the 6th, it is killing me.

there coming from every direction in that one...And looks like one of those races where you go 5 deep and wind up catching the stinking favorite. Speaking of which the 4 Max is Not appears pretty solid - only beaten a 1/2 length at the same condition over a good track (should be similar tomorrow). But Pecorado has his own horse in as well coming off the extended lay off - I hate seeing that in a race especially since the 4 may be the rabbit for his own horse...Siempre Verde on the big drop (open16 and N1X to 8N2L) shouldn't have that much trouble going turf to dirt, but can she handle the cut back in distance?, the lone work going 4 over the track says probably not... Asheba's Glitter may wake up, Irish Fight might too...

Thanks Mike - now I'm as confused as you

tiggerv · #7 02-13-2008, 08:56 PM

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Glad you have an opinion in the 6th, it is killing me.

Oh man, I just started looking at the card and I am going to have to throw a dart in this one.

tiggerv · #8 02-13-2008, 09:46 PM

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Oh man, I just started looking at the card and I am going to have to throw a dart in this one.

I think I am going to single the 6 Siempre Verde. Based on all the pace and speed figures I can come up with she dominates the field. Multiple negatives though, she will have to come from off the pace and doesn't appear to pass too many horses. Turf to dirt, route to sprint, and only 2 checks in 21 starts but I think the previous trainer (4%) didn't know how to find appropriate spots for this horse. Pedigree for dirt looks OK to me. If I don't single, I think I may have to go 5 or 6 deep and include the 1, 4, 8, 9 and 12.

Bigsmc · #9 02-14-2008, 04:53 AM

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I think I am going to single the 6 Siempre Verde. Based on all the pace and speed figures I can come up with she dominates the field. Multiple negatives though, she will have to come from off the pace and doesn't appear to pass too many horses. Turf to dirt, route to sprint, and only 2 checks in 21 starts but I think the previous trainer (4%) didn't know how to find appropriate spots for this horse. Pedigree for dirt looks OK to me. If I don't single, I think I may have to go 5 or 6 deep and include the 1, 4, 8, 9 and 12.

I'm with you on the 4,6,8,9,12. I'm not sold on the 1. She had 4 chances here last year at similar levels and didn't finish better than 5th. It's not like she was hot and something went wrong in her last requiring the layoff. She wasn't good in any of the races and I don't see her being a different animal today.

Singling the 6 is a very daring move and may be the right move. The severe cutback in distance is probably the biggest reason I am not singling. I envision this one having too much work to do late. I just don't know about this one. Unfortunately, my opinion is not clearer after sleeping on it.

Possible singles for me....
Tomochichi in the 7th (Post hurts, but looks to be much the best to me)
Stormin Yank in the 8th (blew by some good horses in his debut)
Divine Wonder in the 9th (really seems to have his act together)
Affirmed Action in the 10th (Addition of blinks gives this one a big wire to wire shot, needs a scratch of the Albertrani)

Ticket(s) up later. My first crack at it last night was over $700, I've got some decisions to make because I am not spending that much today.

Bigsmc · #10 02-14-2008, 11:23 AM

Wow! Fast/good. Time to take another look at the turf races.

Thursday, February 14, 2008

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Good
Portable rail: at 12 feet

Weather: Sunny � upper 60�s

Pick 6 CARRYOVER: $39,060.49

RACE 1 #9-Scratched(Double Check)
Post Time 12:26

RACE 2 #1-jockey C. Dooley
#5-Scratched(Thugster)
#8-jockey J. Cruz
Post Time 12:52

RACE 3 #9-jockey Y. Rosario
Post Time 1:20

RACE 4 #5-Scratched(Boracay Princess) #6-+3
Post Time 1:49

RACE 5 #1-+3
#4-Scratched(Mysweetdistraction)
Post Time 2:18

RACE 6 #3-Scratched(Oh My Billy)
#12-Scratched(Irish Fight)
Post Time 2:48

RACE 7 (Turf)
#11-Scratched(Misfit Manny)
#12-Scratched(Hit Another Gear)
#13-Scratched(Sir George)
#14-Scratched(Sir Fei)
Post Time 3:14

RACE 8 #1-Scratched(Rocklane) P.O.E.
Post Time 3:40

RACE 9 #3-+3
Post Time 4:10

RACE 10 (Turf) #1-+1
#11-Scratched(Sawgrass Allie)
#12-Scratched(I Am a Tank)
#13-Scratched(Kickin� Up Sand)
#14-Scratched(Fabulous Word)
Post Time 4:40

Rudeboyelvis · #11 02-14-2008, 11:26 AM

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Wow! Fast/good. Time to take another look at the turf races.

Hard to believe - Well, time to get to work -

tiggerv · #12 02-14-2008, 11:31 AM

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Hard to believe - Well, time to get to work -

Wow, I was sure they would be off...

Bigsmc · #13 02-14-2008, 11:33 AM

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Hard to believe - Well, time to get to work -

Considering how long they were off the turf the last time it rained....yes it is hard to believe.

Bigsmc · #14 02-14-2008, 11:29 AM

Now that they are staying on the grass the 10 - Top Management in the 10th race is one to look at. He is a half to Rich in Spirit who is a two time Grade 3 winner on the grass. He only shows one small gap in a long series of works. The breeding says distance will not be a problem.

One to possibly include on your backup tickets.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #15 02-14-2008, 12:26 PM

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Now that they are staying on the grass the 10 - Top Management in the 10th race is one to look at. He is a half to Rich in Spirit who is a two time Grade 3 winner on the grass. He only shows one small gap in a long series of works. The breeding says distance will not be a problem.

One to possibly include on your backup tickets.

its all him ..ill use the 9 too but he should roll

Rudeboyelvis · #16 02-14-2008, 11:29 AM

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Scratches

2/14/2008

Race # Horse # Name

7 13 Sir George

I was with Hooves on this one - was going to give 'ole CPF a shot if he drew in

Rudeboyelvis · #17 02-14-2008, 11:31 AM

The scratch of Rocklane in the 8th has helped me trim my ticket to only 7 in that leg

Rudeboyelvis · #18 02-14-2008, 12:02 PM

Can't get excited about either of the two favorites - Vocabulary or Tomochichi. Tomochichi has scratched out of at least two starts (that I recall, and likely more) already this meet, yet to make his first start here at Tam although he's been herre since early Dec... - Don't know what the problem is, but the last work was a dull as dog poop and I'm simply not sold on this one. Vocabulary making his first start off a 6 month layoff would appear to need a race, E. Oro in the irons is no bargain, and the workouts, while steady, nothing of note other than they are even...

My top pick in the race if it were taken off the turf was the 7 Primogeniture and I'm leaving him in - going with the 6 Mr. Mombassa and will attempt to cover my asz with the 10 Tomochichi as the taller of the two pygmies.

still got the 10th to go through

tiggerv · #19 02-14-2008, 12:08 PM

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Can't get excited about either of the two favorites - Vocabulary or Tomochichi. Tomochichi has scratched out of at least two starts (that I recall, and likely more) already this meet, yet to make his first start here at Tam although he's been herre since early Dec... - Don't know what the problem is, but the last work was a dull as dog poop and I'm simply not sold on this one. Vocabulary making his first start off a 6 month layoff would appear to need a race, E. Oro in the irons is no bargain, and the workouts, while steady, nothing of note other than they are even...

My top pick in the race if it were taken off the turf was the 7 Primogeniture and I'm leaving him in - going with the 6 Mr. Mombassa and will attempt to cover my asz with the 10 Tomochichi as the taller of the two pygmies.

still got the 10th to go through

I thought the 4,6,7 and 10 were all contenders in that race and I would have even played the 2 if they were off the turf but will probably toss now. I will cover all of them in the P4 but not sure I can afford that in the P6.

Bigsmc · #20 02-14-2008, 12:09 PM

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Can't get excited about either of the two favorites - Vocabulary or Tomochichi. Tomochichi has scratched out of at least two starts (that I recall, and likely more) already this meet, yet to make his first start here at Tam although he's been herre since early Dec... - Don't know what the problem is, but the last work was a dull as dog poop and I'm simply not sold on this one. Vocabulary making his first start off a 6 month layoff would appear to need a race, E. Oro in the irons is no bargain, and the workouts, while steady, nothing of note other than they are even...

My top pick in the race if it were taken off the turf was the 7 Primogeniture and I'm leaving him in - going with the 6 Mr. Mombassa and will attempt to cover my asz with the 10 Tomochichi as the taller of the two pygmies.

still got the 10th to go through

Exactly why he's left off my ticket. Not sure this kid knows what two turns are.