Santa Anita President's Day Carry Thread

[docicu3]

Okay with the holiday perhaps we can put the time to good use with our own efforts on this one......Let's get the banter started!!

Race 5 Turf Mile 62.5 Alw NW2 (ladies first)


#5 Siamese Cat Rock of Gibraltar turf monster (Hooves special)

Is this a single or do you have to throw in #11 Silver Moonshine whom Carla Gaines has firing fairly well.

Other thoughts in the 5th??

[tiggerv]

Still looking at the race. The 5 is a definite include but I am not all that interested in Carla's horse. Lots of other speed here and her last race she cut pretty modest fractions to wire them. I don't think she gets away with that and may not be able to get over and will be wide the first turn. In fact the 10 is the speed of the speed if Bejarano sends her.

Probably will include the 10 and maybe the 4 Gula Gold who should be running late if there is a pace melt down. Hollendorfer at 15-1 is always tempting. I will wait to see the jockey on the 4 tomorrow. The horse is much more interesting to me if Rosario is on board then if a Marin Garcia or TVG Puglisi has to pick up the mount. Still not sure what to do with the 1 horse. The 3 is also in the mix but I am not planning on playing a 4k ticket so I will see how deep I end up going after looking at all the races.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Still looking at the race. The 5 is a definite include but I am not all that interested in Carla's horse. Lots of other speed here and her last race she cut pretty modest fractions to wire them. I don't think she gets away with that and may not be able to get over and will be wide the first turn. In fact the 10 is the speed of the speed if Bejarano sends her.

Probably will include the 10 and maybe the 4 Gula Gold who should be running late if there is a pace melt down. Hollendorfer at 15-1 is always tempting. I will wait to see the jockey on the 4 tomorrow. The horse is much more interesting to me if Rosario is on board then if a Marin Garcia or TVG Puglisi has to pick up the mount. Still not sure what to do with the 1 horse. The 3 is also in the mix but I am not planning on playing a 4k ticket so I will see how deep I end up going after looking at all the races.

I think it is pretty hard to eliminate Gaines horse with that kind of early turn of foot when it has been successful previously the last 2 times out..

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I think it is pretty hard to eliminate Gaines horse with that kind of early turn of foot when it has been successful previously the last 2 times out..

While Silver Moonshine is in form right now, she's gotten away with murder in both of her recent wire to wire wins. I'll be amazed if she gets clear so easily in here and is able to set such a slow half-mile. There is speed inside of her and this is an awfully deep N2X.

The favorite is logical, Gula is a very live longshot IMO and the rail horse should be able to come back full of fire.

NT

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I think it is pretty hard to eliminate Gaines horse with that kind of early turn of foot when it has been successful previously the last 2 times out..

I would be shocked if you see 48 3/5 and 112 4/5 tomorrow in a 2nd level optional claiming race at only a mile. The 11 could win but will have to go much faster to wire this field.

[Scav]

Different race, is Canani on suspension? Why is Kris' Sis in Baltas' care?

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by Scav

Different race, is Canani on suspension? Why is Kris' Sis in Baltas' care?

Not on suspension but I have no idea why that horse is out of his barn.

[Scav]

I think Silver Moonshine is a major play against. She really moved up last time (4pts) and while she has had time off, my guess it is regress time

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Scav

Different race, is Canani on suspension? Why is Kris' Sis in Baltas' care?

Scav's "per my sources" as an old DC radio personality used to say I believe Ed
Naify from "Naify and Scaler" recently passed away. Julio apparently transferred some of the horses out of his stable in the estate settlement of which Kris Sis was one.......

[SCUDSBROTHER]

race 5)1,3,4,5,10...Might toss the 3,but the other 4 are pretty close.You see all these 2nd place finishes for Siamese Cat? To me that last race was more like a grind it out win than an explosion.I guess everybody thinks Gomez is gunna make her run like 5 lengths better,but I could see her running a 2nd.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

race 5)1,3,4,5,10...Might toss the 3,but the other 4 are pretty close.You see all these 2nd place finishes for Siamese Cat? To me that last race was more like a grind it out win than an explosion.I guess everybody thinks Gomez is gunna make her run like 5 lengths better,but I could see her running a 2nd.

4???

[tiggerv]

Someone help me out on the feature race. I think Black Mamba is a standout but I am not sure I am looking at it objectively because I mistakenly keep betting this horse against the Citronades and Nashoba's Keys of the world and keep getting burned. I don't like Trick's Pic at all and don't think the G3 she won was all that strong. The barn change and layoff of Kris' Sis has me thinking of passing on her. The only other one I even kind of like is Costume.

[docicu3]

I have always tended to overthink these as this bottom claimer race brings together the "logical" #1 NORWAY HOUSE" and the trainer angles like #5 THE RYE MAN where Periban's ROI's on claimer's is $3.29 and synthetic is $2.69 which makes Gerry Olguin a little easier to take.

The last two I am gonna throw in here is the late closer #3 Manhattan Express which if this mess is taken by a late runner might fit the bill and #7 Si Chimi whom Talamo rode competitively not too far back.

Hoping for a scratch as I don't really want to burn up 4 choices here!!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

race 5)1,3,4,5,10...Might toss the 3,but the other 4 are pretty close.You see all these 2nd place finishes for Siamese Cat? To me that last race was more like a grind it out win than an explosion.I guess everybody thinks Gomez is gunna make her run like 5 lengths better,but I could see her running a 2nd.

You might want to check out the replay of the 3's stretch run. Note how she changes back to LEFT lead around mid stretch. The headon shows that the 2nd horse came out into her, forcing her out and causing her to get thrown off stride and lose momentum. Solis had to then get her going again. She's at least 2nd with a clear run. A decent effort off a LONG layoff. She can only improve.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Okay with the holiday perhaps we can put the time to good use with our own efforts on this one......Let's get the banter started!!

Race 5 Turf Mile 62.5 Alw NW2 (ladies first)


#5 Siamese Cat Rock of Gibraltar turf monster (Hooves special)

Is this a single or do you have to throw in #11 Silver Moonshine whom Carla Gaines has firing fairly well.

Other thoughts in the 5th??

Silvermoonshine is breaking from post 11 if there are no scratches. It took her nine races to break her maiden. I think she's a past factor only. I think the horse you mentioned and Ainamma breaking from the rail are the horse you would want on your tickets.

[TheSpyder]

I have it 3, 7, 10 and really like the 3 at a price. If 10 - Delmarva is her old self should be potent.

Spyder

Originally Posted by docicu3

Okay with the holiday perhaps we can put the time to good use with our own efforts on this one......Let's get the banter started!!

Race 5 Turf Mile 62.5 Alw NW2 (ladies first)


#5 Siamese Cat Rock of Gibraltar turf monster (Hooves special)

Is this a single or do you have to throw in #11 Silver Moonshine whom Carla Gaines has firing fairly well.

Other thoughts in the 5th??