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Old 03-04-2008, 04:26 PM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER 2008 Pool 2

1. Blackberry Road (30-1)
2. Bob Black Jack (30-1)
3. Colonel John (12-1)
4. Cool Coal Man (10-1)
5. Court Vision (12-1)
6. Denis of Cork (15-1)
7. El Gato Malo (g) (15-1)
8. Elysium Fields (15-1)
9. Fierce Wind (20-1)
10. Gayego (20-1)
11. Georgie Boy (g) (20-1)
12. Giant Moon (20-1
13. J Be K (30-1)
14. Majestic Warrior (20-1)
15. Monba (30-1)
16. Nikki’sgoldensteed (50-1)
17. Pyro (6-1)
18. Smooth Air (50-1)
19. Tale of Ekati (30-1)
20. Visionaire (30-1)
21. War Pass (5-1)
22. Yankee Bravo (30-1)
23. Z Fortune (20-1)
24. All Others (10-1)
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:31 PM
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No Hey Byrn....

Monba might grind out a 9th place finish in the Derby... if he gets a perfect trip.

At least Anak Nakel got the boot I guess.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:32 PM
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No Hey Byrn....

Monba might grind out a 9th place finish in the Derby... if he gets a perfect trip.
That is surprising. Anyone know what is going on with Face the Cat since he's gone to Pletcher? He seems another potential strong horse in the "All Others" group.


Edit: To answer myself - looks like Face the Cat should surface in the Rebel.
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At least Anak Nakel got the boot I guess.
Yeah, based on his most recent performance I guess you were right about him.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:32 PM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER 2008 Pool 2

1. Blackberry Road (30-1)
2. Bob Black Jack (30-1)
3. Colonel John (12-1)
4. Cool Coal Man (10-1)
5. Court Vision (12-1)
6. Denis of Cork (15-1)
7. El Gato Malo (g) (15-1)
8. Elysium Fields (15-1)
9. Fierce Wind (20-1)
10. Gayego (20-1)
11. Georgie Boy (g) (20-1)
12. Giant Moon (20-1
13. J Be K (30-1)
14. Majestic Warrior (20-1)
15. Monba (30-1)
16. Nikki’sgoldensteed (50-1)
17. Pyro (6-1)
18. Smooth Air (50-1)
19. Tale of Ekati (30-1)
20. Visionaire (30-1)
21. War Pass (5-1)
22. Yankee Bravo (30-1)
23. Z Fortune (20-1)
24. All Others (10-1)
i do not see much value on anything
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:04 PM
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i do not see much value on anything

I still like the #24 horse.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:51 PM
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I still like the #24 horse.
Yeah, but he has got a horrendous post.
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i do not see much value on anything
that is what you might call the morning line.
you might want to wait until people actually start betting to decide if you see any value or not.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:39 PM
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How about Barclay Tagg and David Carroll with more (2 each) on this list than Todd Pletcher..
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How about Barclay Tagg and David Carroll with more (2 each) on this list than Todd Pletcher..
Taking Asmussen and Pletcher over Asmussen and Zito in that Road to the Roses contest is going to ruin me in it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:18 PM
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Taking Asmussen and Pletcher over Asmussen and Zito in that Road to the Roses contest is going to ruin me in it.
Can't you switch like midway or something in this Road to Roses thing? Or was that TVG?
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Taking Asmussen and Pletcher over Asmussen and Zito in that Road to the Roses contest is going to ruin me in it.

Out of curiousity, which Pletcher killer did you like for this year's Derby that you took him over Nick?

Had to be Monba. Even Freddy was probably ashamed of you.
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Taking Asmussen and Pletcher over Asmussen and Zito in that Road to the Roses contest is going to ruin me in it.
We'll go down together then.. I did the same thing. Hard to know tho back then.
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Taking Asmussen and Pletcher over Asmussen and Zito in that Road to the Roses contest is going to ruin me in it.
i have pletcher and zito i believe. explains why i'm mid pack.
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that is what you might call the morning line.
you might want to wait until people actually start betting to decide if you see any value or not.
For that matter, if I could get the morning line 10-1 on "all others", I'd consider that huge value. I'll be all over it. (the highest it's ever closed is 6.90-1.)

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For that matter, if I could get the morning line 10-1 on "all others", I'd consider that huge value. I'll be all over it. (the highest it's ever closed is 6.90-1.)

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good point, right there is some value.
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good point, right there is some value.
I thought the same thing, but 10-1 will not happen. I beleive it's sitting at
6-1 right now.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:59 PM
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Smile kentucky derby future will pays
about .com:http://www.kentucky derby.com all others $15.00 pyro $10.00 war pass$11.20 visionaire$41.60 etc etc
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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Who appears to be the best value in there? To me War Pass, Cool Coal Man and all others look like the value. I'm wondering why Cool Coal Man should be higher odds than Elysium Fields. Could it be his running style or pedigree compared with Elysium Fields? The fact that Zito trains War Pass and may point CCM somewhere else? After reading the FOY recap on drf it seemed like Zito conceded CCM got a great trip and wasn't inclined to point him to the Fla. derby.
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