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Old 03-05-2008, 01:18 AM
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Clintons can play this game pretty well.She says it ain't a game,but she has a lot of clutch moves to make when she has to win.She needs to keep pounding away at his inexperience.This mistake his people made over the NAFTA/Canada issue is her in.This is really his only Achilles.To win,she has to make him look like he isn't ready for the job(he very well may not be-I don't think he is.)By the end of this,she will look way too partisan to get elected president.Obama is gunna look like he is too inexperienced for the job(too amateurish.)If McCain gets to the center now he will take this.He needs to ignore the Conservatives totally.These assholes are gunna vote for him no matter what.If he gets to the center more,then he is in.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:45 AM
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:58 AM
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Clintons can play this game pretty well.She says it ain't a game,but she has a lot of clutch moves to make when she has to win.She needs to keep pounding away at his inexperience.This mistake his people made over the NAFTA/Canada issue is her in.This is really his only Achilles.To win,she has to make him look like he isn't ready for the job(he very well may not be-I don't think he is.)By the end of this,she will look way too partisan to get elected president.Obama is gunna look like he is too inexperienced for the job(too amateurish.)If McCain gets to the center now he will take this.He needs to ignore the Conservatives totally.These assholes are gunna vote for him no matter what.If he gets to the center more,then he is in.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:46 AM
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It is amazing that year after year the Democrats seem to blow their chance at the white house. People will say, well Bill Clinton didn't win the nomination until June 2nd and won the presidency. Well he was going up against Bush Sr who raised taxes after he said he wouldn't. So that was a pretty easy contest for him to win.

Even though Clinton won 3 of the 4 states, Obama still has a nice lead in the delegate count. I believe it is going to be a brokered convention and this is not good for the Dems. Three times in history the Dems went to their convention being brokered and they lost the presidency all three times.

For Obama and NAFTA (which is the worse piece of legislation ever) all he has to do is find a link between the Clinton's pasing NAFTA and the fact that Hillary was named to the board of Wal-Mart shortly after they left the White House.

Obama or Clinton have some good ideas but neither one of them will be a good President in the long run. Both health care policies are a joke, their economic plan is a joke, raising taxes on the rich doesn't do anything, getting out of Iraq is not the correct thing to do (now getting involved in the 1st place wasnt a great idea either), immigration issue is a farce. Now McCain's ideas aren't any better....I guess he is the lesser of 3 evils.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:23 PM
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It is amazing that year after year the Democrats seem to blow their chance at the white house. People will say, well Bill Clinton didn't win the nomination until June 2nd and won the presidency. Well he was going up against Bush Sr who raised taxes after he said he wouldn't. So that was a pretty easy contest for him to win.

Even though Clinton won 3 of the 4 states, Obama still has a nice lead in the delegate count. I believe it is going to be a brokered convention and this is not good for the Dems. Three times in history the Dems went to their convention being brokered and they lost the presidency all three times.

For Obama and NAFTA (which is the worse piece of legislation ever) all he has to do is find a link between the Clinton's pasing NAFTA and the fact that Hillary was named to the board of Wal-Mart shortly after they left the White House.

Obama or Clinton have some good ideas but neither one of them will be a good President in the long run. Both health care policies are a joke, their economic plan is a joke, raising taxes on the rich doesn't do anything, getting out of Iraq is not the correct thing to do (now getting involved in the 1st place wasnt a great idea either), immigration issue is a farce. Now McCain's ideas aren't any better....I guess he is the lesser of 3 evils.

yeah the status quo seems to be working really well. country is in great shape right now.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:56 PM
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yeah the status quo seems to be working really well. country is in great shape right now.
I didn't mention anything about staus quo. Not sure where you are getting that. Please explain a little further about the connection between my post and status quo.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:09 PM
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I didn't mention anything about staus quo. Not sure where you are getting that. Please explain a little further about the connection between my post and status quo.
i guess it was the referring to the dems ideas as a joke and mcains no better and thinking to myself change can be good. we dont know the exact outcome of some of these policies unless they are implemented and put into action. nothing wrongwith trying something new. and i say status quo as to how the country has been run for so long aswe are not in the best of sorts, and improvments can be made in many areas. and some clean up needs to be done .i took it as you thought they are no better then what we have now. but from what we have now we can only go upwards hopefully
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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yeah the status quo seems to be working really well. country is in great shape right now.

The status quo only works if McCain is elected...I've been a Hillary supporter since before all this started and I truly believe her election will turn a new page in American politics. There are those who hate Hillary, those who lower themselves to attacks on her appearance...that's sad but predictable. Obama is a natural leader, I can and will support him if he wins the nomination but I think the possibility of a Clinton/Obama ticket may become a reality. In any event, the country will have a clear choice...a 71 year old white guy who is basically a Bush clone or someone who just might bring about significant change for the better. This election is appearing to be more and more about the economy...and that's a dog that don't hunt for McCain!
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:14 PM
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The status quo only works if McCain is elected...I've been a Hillary supporter since before all this started and I truly believe her election will turn a new page in American politics. There are those who hate Hillary, those who lower themselves to attacks on her appearance...that's sad but predictable. Obama is a natural leader, I can and will support him if he wins the nomination but I think the possibility of a Clinton/Obama ticket may become a reality. In any event, the country will have a clear choice...a 71 year old white guy who is basically a Bush clone or someone who just might bring about significant change for the better. This election is appearing to be more and more about the economy...and that's a dog that don't hunt for McCain!
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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The status quo only works if McCain is elected...I've a clear choice...a 71 year old white guy who is basically a Bush clone or someone who just might bring about significant change for the better. This election is appearing to be more and more about the economy...and that's a dog that don't hunt for McCain!
You obviously dont know much about McCain if you believe that he is a Bush clone and McCains positions on the economy are not much different than Sir Hillary's. I am not commenting on McCain's abilities but he is not that similar to Bush except he is a white guy (which is a bad thing for many lefties)
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:13 PM
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It is amazing that year after year the Democrats seem to blow their chance at the white house. People will say, well Bill Clinton didn't win the nomination until June 2nd and won the presidency. Well he was going up against Bush Sr who raised taxes after he said he wouldn't. So that was a pretty easy contest for him to win.

Even though Clinton won 3 of the 4 states, Obama still has a nice lead in the delegate count. I believe it is going to be a brokered convention and this is not good for the Dems. Three times in history the Dems went to their convention being brokered and they lost the presidency all three times.

For Obama and NAFTA (which is the worse piece of legislation ever) all he has to do is find a link between the Clinton's pasing NAFTA and the fact that Hillary was named to the board of Wal-Mart shortly after they left the White House.

Obama or Clinton have some good ideas but neither one of them will be a good President in the long run. Both health care policies are a joke, their economic plan is a joke, raising taxes on the rich doesn't do anything, getting out of Iraq is not the correct thing to do (now getting involved in the 1st place wasnt a great idea either), immigration issue is a farce. Now McCain's ideas aren't any better....I guess he is the lesser of 3 evils.
Sez who? And why?

Sad about jobs leaving but really now, do you think those jobs weren't leaving if not for NAFTA?

The jobs that went were going to go.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:16 PM
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Sez who? And why?

Sad about jobs leaving but really now, do you think those jobs weren't leaving if not for NAFTA?

The jobs that went were going to go.
Just about every economist and enviromentalist out there states that NAFTA is not a good piece of legislation. It (NAFTA) has created child sweat shops, illegal immigration has increased since NAFTA not decreased like they (politicians) thought, it also tries to create a level trading field for Mexico, Canada and U.S, (but why do we want to be on the same playing field as far as trade goes with those countries), it has created horrible enviromental disaster along the Mexico U.S border (Mexico does not have very good enviromental laws), pay has not increased for the workers in Mexico like they thought, jobs have been lost that prob would not have gone overseas....the list is endless as to why this is a bad piece of legislation.
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I'll be announcing my candidacy to run against Cannon shortly as the Dem representative for DT president
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:51 AM
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I'll be announcing my candidacy to run against Cannon shortly as the Dem representative for DT president
Mesramag as your running mate?
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:58 AM
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Mesramag as your running mate?
It is too early in the process to discuss running mates, but I can share with you that she probably won't pass our initial back ground checks. I eagerly await your list of potentials from the deep talent pool that you have to choose from.
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:44 PM
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I like the sound of this...
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Clintons can play this game pretty well.She says it ain't a game,but she has a lot of clutch moves to make when she has to win.She needs to keep pounding away at his inexperience.This mistake his people made over the NAFTA/Canada issue is her in.This is really his only Achilles.To win,she has to make him look like he isn't ready for the job(he very well may not be-I don't think he is.)By the end of this,she will look way too partisan to get elected president.Obama is gunna look like he is too inexperienced for the job(too amateurish.)If McCain gets to the center now he will take this.He needs to ignore the Conservatives totally.These assholes are gunna vote for him no matter what.If he gets to the center more,then he is in.

so, McCain should try to be conservative ?

like it or not that is the center.

This conservative will NEVER vote for McCain. I would rather have the evil D stalinist than another RINO pretender.

I have a co-worker that hates unions (of which I am a member) and he votes dem. I was like.. "but dems support unions" and he just laughed. Then NAFTA passed and he was tickled to death to see all the factories closing.

Dems forget it was a dem majority in congress and a dem president that sold us out on NAFTA.
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so, McCain should try to be conservative ?

like it or not that is the center.

This conservative will NEVER vote for McCain. I would rather have the evil D stalinist than another RINO pretender.

I have a co-worker that hates unions (of which I am a member) and he votes dem. I was like.. "but dems support unions" and he just laughed. Then NAFTA passed and he was tickled to death to see all the factories closing.

Dems forget it was a dem majority in congress and a dem president that sold us out on NAFTA.
Potential Cannon running mate
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:52 PM
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He is more of a director of the CIA type
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