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Old 07-17-2006, 12:03 PM
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Default Handicapping Wind

I need some help here. My worse days often come when the wind is blowing rather hard. I just cant seem to get a grasp on a good handicapping strategy when wind is involved. Maybe the wind has psyched me out or I am missing something. Can someone(s) please help me and share their handicapping angles with me when wind is a factor.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:41 PM
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Default Capping the wind

I Tend To Try And Find Horses That Are Going To Be Covered Up While Running Into The Wind,for Example Down Backstreatch Sort Of Draftso Not To Be The One Cuttingthrough The Wind ,then Home Streatch With The Wind At Your Back Shake Loose And Use The Wind To Run Down Those Tired From Running Into The Wind,on The Backside .
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:02 PM
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It's gotta be rough on a horse to go into one of those headwinds with a jock on their back going 35 MPH. I think the idea that there may be somewhat of a draft is true, but still, I think the best horse will win under these kinds of conditions. It's not like a change in surface where one horse would adapt differently than another. Does that make any sense?
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:18 PM
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I think its a bigger factor in elongated sprints; for instance at Arlington, a 1 mile race is around one turn. If the wind is from the east, the horses up front will have a long run to the turn right into the teeth of the wind. Other tracks w/elongated sprints are Bel, Aqu (main not inner), Hol and CD to name a few.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:23 PM
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I think its a bigger factor in elongated sprints; for instance at Arlington, a 1 mile race is around one turn. If the wind is from the east, the horses up front will have a long run to the turn right into the teeth of the wind. Other tracks w/elongated sprints are Bel, Aqu (main not inner), Hol and CD to name a few.
These are the exact type of races I struggle with. I wish there was some formula to use to say if there is a 20 mph head win and the horse is running in an elongated sprint and the wind is from the east, the horse is really running 1 1/16 with the energy the horse has to use to run in the head wind.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:20 PM
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It's gotta be rough on a horse to go into one of those headwinds with a jock on their back going 35 MPH. I think the idea that there may be somewhat of a draft is true, but still, I think the best horse will win under these kinds of conditions. It's not like a change in surface where one horse would adapt differently than another. Does that make any sense?
Yeah that make sense. But I dont think the horses are going fast enough or are that aerodynamic to cause some sort of draft. I know that I want my horse on the lead turning for home with a headwind. But I really struggle with wind. But I agree the classiest horse should win.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:26 PM
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I have the same problem with the sun.

Some horses it seems run better going towards the sun ... while others do better going away from it.

I often wonder if blinkers and shadow rolls have an effect on that. For instance ... if a horse has a single cup partially covering his right eye ... and his eye is in the sun on the backstretch ... but shaded from the sun down the stretch ... how does this affect the horse's acceleration?

Also ... if a horse is equipped with a shadow roll ... and the sun goes behind a cloud so that there are no shadows ... how does this affect his performance?

Any "sun" handicappers out there?
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:32 PM
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I have the same problem with the sun.

Some horses it seems run better going towards the sun ... while others do better going away from it.

I often wonder if blinkers and shadow rolls have an effect on that. For instance ... if a horse has a single cup partially covering his right eye ... and his eye is in the sun on the backstretch ... but shaded from the sun down the stretch ... how does this affect the horse's acceleration?

Also ... if a horse is equipped with a shadow roll ... and the sun goes behind a cloud so that there are no shadows ... how does this affect his performance?

Any "sun" handicappers out there?
That is pretty interesting to think about. I have been a victum of a horse jumping a shadow or too. But just like driving a car, the sun can play a role.
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