3/29 (GP): 57th Florida Derby (Gr. I)

Kasept · #1 03-24-2008, 02:36 PM

FLORIDA DERBY

1. Fierce Wind (Zito/Velasquez)
2. Smooth Air (Stutts/Cruz)
3. Da'Tara (Zito/Bravo)
4. Tomcito (Zanelli/Chavez)
5. Cool Gator (Vella/Castro)
6. Nistle's Crunch (McPeek/Leparouz)
7. B B Frank (Tarrant/Castellano)
8. Elysium Fields (Tagg/Coa)
9. Hey Byrn (Plesa/Lezcano)
10. Majestic Warrior (Mott/Douglas)
11. Face the Cat (Pletcher/Velasquez)
12. Big Brown (Cutrow/Desormeaux)

Cajungator26 · #2 03-24-2008, 03:43 PM

Cool Gator is a name bet of mine.

Can't help myself...

kentuckyrosesinmay · #3 03-24-2008, 04:25 PM

Big Brown is the best horse in the country. He wins the Florida Derby easily.

ddthetide · #4 03-24-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Cool Gator is a name bet of mine.

Can't help myself...

should be

lemoncrush · #5 03-24-2008, 04:38 PM

This is easily the most interesting field for a 3-yo derby prep.
Unless it's a swamp like last weekend, this will be a great betting race, and you really have no idea where the money is going to go.
I assume Big Brown will be the favorite, and if he gets a post-position draw somewhere between 1 and 5, that's probably where my money will be going, too.
Very interested to see Tomcito, Hey Byrn, Smooth Air and Elysium Fields, as well.

jcs11204 · #6 03-24-2008, 06:11 PM

i was looking at the pp's on the nominated list... i am intrested in Tomcito
is he anything ?

hockey2315 · #7 03-24-2008, 06:36 PM

The general consensus is that no one knows. . .

jcs11204 · #8 03-24-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

i was looking at the pp's on the nominated list... i am intrested in Tomcito
is he anything ?

i said intrested...
as far as the exacta, like i said its early... and one reasson is that i think big brown and hey byrn are both over hyped

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 03-24-2008, 08:03 PM

This race is a little bit like the dirt version of the San Felipe.

In the San Felipe you had three very interesting horses in Georgie Boy, Bob Black Jack, and Gayego all stretching out making there routing debuts on the derby trail. And you had one interesting foreign mystery horse in Shediak.

In the Florida Derby you have three horses all making there debuts in derby trail Stake races in Big Brown, Hey Byrn, and Face The Cat - you have one interesting foreign mystery horse in Tomcito. You also get Elysium Fields as an added bonus in this one.

jcs11204 · #10 03-24-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush

This is easily the most interesting field for a 3-yo derby prep.
Unless it's a swamp like last weekend, this will be a great betting race, and you really have no idea where the money is going to go.
I assume Big Brown will be the favorite, and if he gets a post-position draw somewhere between 1 and 5, that's probably where my money will be going, too.
Very interested to see Tomcito, Hey Byrn, Smooth Air and Elysium Fields, as well.

i am confused by this post ? no idea where the money will go, are you kidding me ? he will be lower then 2-1, big brown is going to get pounded at the window,and he may win, but there is no value at all betting him in this spot.

lemoncrush · #11 03-24-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

i am confused by this post ? no idea where the money will go, are you kidding me ? he will be lower then 2-1, big brown is going to get pounded at the window,and he may win, but there is no value at all betting him in this spot.

There may not be value, but he simply may be the best horse in the race. The interesting part is the mystery surrouding tomcito, hey byrn, etc..
You may get 10-1 on a horse like Face the Cat or Smoot Air who certainly could end up being something special.

Benny Leger · #12 03-29-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

i am confused by this post ? no idea where the money will go, are you kidding me ? he will be lower then 2-1, big brown is going to get pounded at the window,and he may win, but there is no value at all betting him in this spot.

12 hole is o-fer in 9f races since reconfiguration @ GP

smuthg · #13 03-26-2008, 11:20 AM

Big Brown drew the outside post in a field of 12 for the Florida Derby. Should be interesting...

Scav · #14 03-26-2008, 11:22 AM

Even better because people will still play

smuthg · #15 03-26-2008, 11:27 AM

I just saw where Curlin drew the 12 hole for the DWC... I can't remember how Nad Al Sheba is set up, but don't they have a pretty good run into the first turn.

Scav · #16 03-26-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg

I just saw where Curlin drew the 12 hole for the DWC... I can't remember how Nad Al Sheba is set up, but don't they have a pretty good run into the first turn.

Post the entries for Dubai if you could

smuthg · #17 03-26-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Post the entries for Dubai if you could

This is all I've found thus far...

http://dubairacingclub.com/dubaiworl...d=314&post=684

and I'm not smart enough to tell if this is final or not... It does have Curlin in the 12 hole.

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Dec...eeting_id=2243

SniperSB23 · #18 03-26-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg

I just saw where Curlin drew the 12 hole for the DWC... I can't remember how Nad Al Sheba is set up, but don't they have a pretty good run into the first turn.

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/rcNadAlSheba.cfm

For those of you that are metrically challenge the World Cup is 2000 meters so there is a 400 meter (1/4 mile) run to the first turn. Should be plenty of time to find position.

#19 03-26-2008, 11:26 AM

Fierce Wind in the garden spot.

the_fat_man · #20 03-26-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He'll really have to be the best Desormeaux has ever ridden to win from there.

Why is Affirmed, Seattle Slew, and a few of the others making a comeback for the race? Not like there are any world beaters in the race OR a large field. So, WHO CARES where he breaks from.