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Old 03-25-2008, 12:06 PM
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Fully updated... Red = Derby next start...

Earnings still available..

Lexington:
1. $195k (X)
2. $65k (X) if with existing earning >$65k
3. $32.5k


Graded Stakes Earnings List (04/12/08)

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000
X Proud Spell Larry Jones $880,000
3 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
4 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000
5 Gayego Paulo Lobo $640,000

6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Monba Todd Pletcher $500,000
9 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
10 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $329,000

11 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
12 Recapturetheglory $300,000
13 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
X Salute the Sarge Eric Guillot $258,940
14 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767
X Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
15 Eight Belles Larry Jones $210,000

16 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $207,660
X Massive Drama Dale Romans $205,200
17 Visionaire Michael Matz $202,500
18 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
19 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000
20 Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000

21 Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996
22 Indian Sun Dan Hendricks $154,000
23 Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
24 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $150,000
X El Gato Malo Craig Dollase $145,000
25 Hey Byrn Eddie Plesa $140,000

26 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
27 Coast Guard David Hoffmans $130,000
28 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
29 Golden Spikes Marty Wolfson $118,000
30 Tres Borrachos Beau Greeley $118,000

31 Golden Yank Gary Thomas 115,000
32 Yankee Bravo Patrick Gallagher $105,000
33 Racecar Rhapsody Ken McPeek $90,871 (LEX)
34 Shediak (FR) Richard Mandella $78,576
35 Kentucky Bear Reade Baker $75,000

36 King's Silver Son Steve Asmussen $60,000
37 Texas Wildcatter Todd Pletcher $53,750
38 Isabull Steve Hobby $50,000
39 Medjool David Hoffmans $47,500
40 Stevil Nick Zito $49,500

41 Cannonball Wesley Ward $18,800
42 Liberty Bull Tom Amoss $18,750
43 Behindatthebar Todd Pletcher $3,000
44 Samba Rooster Bob Baffert $0
45 Big Glen Frank Brothers $0
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:20 PM
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A deserving horse like Rock Hard Ten got excluded from the Derby because he was DQ'd from 2nd place in the Santa Anita Derby.

A horse like a Big Brown, Hey Byrn, Face The Cat or even Elisyum Fields (with just 70K) all could find themselves excluded even with a big effort in the Florida Derby if they foul someone.
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:22 PM
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Where do the fillies (Country Star and potentially the Larry Jones' duo) rank on this list? Wouldn't Eight Bells be about $60K with County Star and Proud Spell both well over $500k?
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:39 PM
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Where do the fillies (Country Star and potentially the Larry Jones' duo) rank on this list? Wouldn't Eight Bells be about $60K with County Star and Proud Spell both well over $500k?
Country Star would check in as 3rd with $565k... Don't have Eight Belles and Proud Spell handy, but Proud Spell has to be over $500,000 and Eight Belles maybe $90,000.
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Country Star would check in as 3rd with $565k... Don't have Eight Belles and Proud Spell handy, but Proud Spell has to be over $500,000 and Eight Belles maybe $90,000.
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That Delta Jackpot race is just a joke. has anyone in that race even moderately ran well since then?
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Z Fortune ran 2nd to Pyro but then did nothing in his next start. . . That race is definitely an anti-key race. . .
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That Delta Jackpot race is just a joke. has anyone in that race even moderately ran well since then?
Has any Delta Jackpot winner ever done much afterwards?
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A deserving horse like Rock Hard Ten got excluded from the Derby because he was DQ'd from 2nd place in the Santa Anita Derby.

A horse like a Big Brown, Hey Byrn, Face The Cat or even Elisyum Fields (with just 70K) all could find themselves excluded even with a big effort in the Florida Derby if they foul someone.
Why was he "deserving"? They had a year to get him some earnings and didn't do it.
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Why was he "deserving"? They had a year to get him some earnings and didn't do it.
He was trained by the hapless Jason Ormen - and was a very late developing horse who didn't make his stakes debut until the Santa Anita Derby.

I say he was deserving because he would have certainly taken more money than any of the horses coming in from So. Cal that year.
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Graded Stakes Earnings List..

BOLD = Top 20
Italics = Derby unlikely

1 War Pass Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $1,320,000
2 Pyro Asmussen, S. Winchell Thoroughbreds $1,020,000
3 Z Humor Mott, W. Zayat Stable, LLC $524,000

4 Kodiak Kowboy Asmussen, S. Vinery & Fox Hill Farm $441,373
5 Turf War Casse, M. Woodford Racing, Bolton & Farish $405,407
6 Georgie Boy Walsh, K. George Schwary $390,000

7 Adriano Motion, G. Courtlandt Farm $310,000

8 Tale of Ekati Tagg, B. Charles Fipke $288,000
9 Colonel John Harty, E. WinStar Farm, LLC $270,000
10 Court Vision Mott, W. IEAH St. & WinStar Farm, LLC $256,872
11 Cool Coal Man Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $212,767
12 Massive Drama Romans, D. Zayat Stable, LLC $205,200

13 Big Truck Tagg, B. Eric Fein $194,500
14 Anak Nakal Zito, N. Four Roses Thoroughbreds $189,716
15 Visionaire Matz, M. Vision Racing & Team Valor $180,000
16 Majestic Warrior Mott, W. Kinsman,Smith,Tabor,Magnier $164,000
17 Halo Najib Romans, D. Zayat Stable, LLC $157,996

18 Denis of Cork Carroll, D. Mr. & Mrs. W. Warren $150,000
19 El Gato Malo Dollase, C. West Point Thoroughbreds $130,000
20 Z Fortune Asmussen, S. Zayat Stable, LLC $129,000
21 Blackberry Road Carroll, D. Dogwood Stable $123,417
22 Golden Yank Thomas, G. Millard Seldin Revocable Trust $115,000


23 Indian Sun Hendricks, D. C. Peacock $104,000
24 Atoned Pletcher, T. Dogwood Stable $100,000
25 Racecar Rhapsody McPeek, K. Jerry Carroll, et al $90,871
26 Smooth Air Stutts, B. Jr. Mount Joy Stable, Inc. $90,000
27 Shediak (FR) O'Neill, D. Triple B Farms $78,576
28 Etched bin Suroor, S. Godolphin $77,180
29 Elysium Fields Tagg, B. Robert Evans $70,000
30 Yankee Bravo Gallagher, P. Harlequin Ranches, et al $60,000
31 King's Silver Son Asmussen, S. M. McCarty $60,000
32 Cowboy Cal Pletcher, T. Stonerside Stable $57,660
33 Texas Wildcatter Pletcher, T. Stonerside Stable $50,000
34 Medjool Hofmans, D. Equine Prep Management $47,500
35 Gayego Lobo, P. Cubanacan Stable $40,000
36 Nikki'sgoldensteed Hess, R. Jr. M. Lomas & G. Spencer $30,000
37 Bob Black Jack Kaparoff, J. J. Harmon & T. Kasparoff $30,000
38 Isabull Hobby, S. JoAnn & Alex Lieblong $30,000
39 Roman Emperor Klesaris, S. Puglisi, Klesaris & Ruby Stable $12,500
40 Stevil Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $12,000
41 Big Brown Dutrow, R. IEAH St. & Paul Pompa $0
42 Fierce Wind Zito, N. Minor Stables $0
I assume you would add Massive Drama to list of "Unlikley for Derby", and would guess at least 3 or 4 others currently in the top 20 won't run on May 3 due to obvious limitations on talent (Turf War, Anak Nakal, etc..). However, some owners just want to get there, regardless of how remote their chances of winning are.
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I wouldn't include any Zayat horse with enough earnings as "unlikely" no matter what the horse has to go through to do it.
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Nevermind, did some quick google research and discovered why.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:05 AM
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Anyone see an updated list anywhere?

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Old 04-06-2008, 09:17 AM
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I poked around Bloodhorse, but still looking for an updated list.
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Steve, the list isn't showing bold or italics
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Steve, the list isn't showing bold or italics
Top 20 self explainatory for now and I took out the unintendeds...
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:52 AM
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Fully updated and accurate..

*** = Derby starter assuming 'uncertains' DO NOT run...

Red = Derby next start...

Earning avails..

Bluegrass:
1. $450k (X)
2. $150k (X)
3. $75k (X) with existing earnings >$50k
4. $37.5k

Arkansas:
1. $600k (X)
2. $200k (X)
3. $100k (X) with existing earnings >$30k
4. $50k

Holy Bull:
1. $90k (X) if with existing earnings >$30k
2. $45k

Lexington:
1. $195k (X)
2. $65k (X) if with existing earning >$65k
3. $32.5k



Graded Stakes Earnings List (04/07/08)

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000 (BG)
3 Proud Spell Larry Jones $880,000
4 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
5 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000

6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
9 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
10 Recapturetheglory $300,000

11 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
12 Salute the Sarge Eric Guillot $258,940
13 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767 (BG)
14 Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
15 Massive Drama Dale Romans $205,200

16 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
17 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000
18 Visionaire Michael Matz $180,000 (BG)
19 Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000
20 Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996 (BG)

21 Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
22 El Gato Malo Craig Dollase $145,000
23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000 *** (AK)
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417 *** (AK) 4th, even 5th, OK..

26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000 *** (AK) 4th, even 5th, OK..

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27 Golden Spikes Marty Wolfson $118,000
28 Golden Yank Gary Thomas 115,000 (AK) Needs 4th or >..
29 Yankee Bravo Patrick Gallagher $105,000
30 Indian Sun Dan Hendricks $104,000 (AK) Needs 4th or >..

31 Racecar Rhapsody Ken McPeek $90,871
32 Shediak (FR) Richard Mandella $78,576 (AK) Needs 3rd or >..
33 Elysium Fields Barclay Tagg $70,000 (BG/AK/HB) TBD..
34 King's Silver Son Steve Asmussen $60,000 (AK) Needs 3rd or >..
35 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $57,660 (BG) Needs 3rd or > at the least..

36 Texas Wildcatter Todd Pletcher $53,750
37 Monba Todd Pletcher $50,000 (BG) Needs 3rd, ideally 2nd..
38 Medjool David Hoffman $50,000 (BG) Needs 3rd, ideally 2nd..
39 Hey Byrn Eddie Plesa $50,000 (HB?) Needs to win Holy Bull if he goes..
40 Gayego Paulo Lobo $40,000 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..

41 Giant Moon Richard Schosberg $38,750
42 Isabull Steve Hobby $30,000 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..
43 Cannonball Wesley Ward $18,800
44 Liberty Bull Tom Amoss $18,750 (AK) Needs 2nd or >..
45 Stevil Nick Zito $12,000
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As of today, who in the top 20 will not be running in the Derby?

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