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Old 04-12-2008, 05:57 PM
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It seems that, no matter who you back for the Derby this year, you're going to have to say this about at least one race.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:09 PM
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except for Big Brown.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:11 PM
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:28 PM
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Gonna be pretty ballsy to run him the day after the Derby.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:55 PM
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lol....... actually
what has cowboy cal done wrong ?
intresting huh ? look at his pp's.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:58 PM
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Gonna be pretty ballsy to run him the day after the Derby.
what i meant by that was that the day after the derby, watch people be saying the same sort of things about big browns bad race that they are saying for everyone else's one (or more) bad prep(s).
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Old 04-13-2008, 10:47 PM
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Gonna be pretty ballsy to run him the day after the Derby.
It is Dutrow though... where's Golden Man when we need him?!?
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:43 PM
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People are quick to say "toss this" when a horse doesn't perform to the expecations that they expected of him regardless of whether or not the expectations were unrealistic or not in the first place. I think that it's pretty obvious that Pyro is a better horse than he showed yesterday but I don't totally blame his performance on the track. Even if he doesn't like the track, he should still have been able to put in a better effort than he did. Street Sense in last year's Blue Grass is a good example.
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correct... except on the 3rd...
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correct... except on the 3rd...
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except for Big Brown.
Yeah, except for Big Brown.

With BB now the likely favorite, the one thing I can definately say about my Derby tickets at this point is that he will not be in the top two spots. He is the very definition of a vulnerable favorite.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:13 PM
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Yeah, except for Big Brown.

With BB now the likely favorite, the one thing I can definately say about my Derby tickets at this point is that he will not be in the top two spots. He is the very definition of a vulnerable favorite.
very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.
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very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.
and has every right to improve off of his inexperiance.
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:03 PM
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I wasn't using him in the derby anyways. Sucker bet that'll be crushed in the exotics.
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:25 PM
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very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.
So did Bellamy Road a few years back...remember where he finished.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:17 AM
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seems most horses have a performance that is inexplicable. colonel john seems strongest from the west-but to be perfectly honest, i don't want to see a awt horse win the derby. i'm sure someone(s) will jump on me for that, but like i said, i'm being honest-and that's my feeling on it.
doesn't mean it won't happen. i also don't want to see a horse with less lifetime starts then i have fingers on one hand win it-i don't want the lightly raced horse to become even more of a trend.

many of the horses have a head scratcher. or maybe not. perhaps war pass' rotten clunker, and his only out of the money finish, was due to a change in surface. same could be said of pyro today, who has done nothing wrong in much of his career. so what changed? easy to say in his case. dirt to poly according to the talking heads on tv said that dirt to poly is much more difficult then vice versa. gayego and sierra sunset bear that out, maybe yankee bravo as well to be honest. he went poly to dirt, and finished third to pyro. then he goes back to poly and ran his worst race ever in the santa anita derby.


interesting derby coming up. i wonder if giacomo will lose his title of 'worst derby winner ever'? well, not ever-i still think gato del sol was worse, but memories for some here are short.
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:33 PM
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It seems that, no matter who you back for the Derby this year, you're going to have to say this about at least one race.
Where do we draw the line in Gayego's races?
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:34 PM
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his 2nd lifetime race...

Every other one has been excellent.
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