War Pass out with fracture

[Monarchos1]

Haven't seen this online yet, but War Pass is off the Derby trail with a fracture, presumably suffered in the Wood Memorial.

[hectic_1978]

Looks like the courier journal has it up.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...04/1002/SPORTS

[Pedigree Ann]

Surprise, surprise.

[TheSpyder]

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

Pretty hard to see how it favors Big Brown. If he doesn't rate he doesn't win. Doesn't matter how many horses are on the lead, all you know is you don't want to be there. With Bob Black Jack (109 beyer) in there along with Recapturetheglory (102 beyer) you have two very fast horses that want the lead, both of which have proven they are fast animals but neither looks like they can take it 10f with a quick pace. Horses like Big Brown and Gayego must sit off the pace no matter who is in there or they will be cooked. Churchill Downs is not the front running biased Gulfstream.

The bad thing about War Pass not running is he was going to take a ton of money for a horse that had absolutely zero chance of winning.

[geof]

The Wood was run 2 races after my horse broke down. I think the track had something to do with it. It was deep and the front end was colapsing. They cacelled racing the day before and were working overtime to get it ready for Saturday.........

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Recapturetheglory is very fast?

He sure is. 2nd fastest dirt beyer in the Kentucky Derby field. His doesn't have blazing speed but he has solid early speed and he can stay. Horse is improving and is very dangerous if he gets loose on the lead, which he shouldn't, but if you got a triple digit beyer and you are improving....

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

Interesting to note that on ESPN2 just now they said Dutrow wanted War Pass in there so that he had something to run at. I have to agree with Dutrow. This hurts Big Brown and now they have to figure out to go to the lead or sit back off of somebody.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Interesting to note that on ESPN2 just now they said Dutrow wanted War Pass in there so that he had something to run at. I have to agree with Dutrow. This hurts Big Brown and now they have to figure out to go to the lead or sit back off of somebody.

this is utter nonsense.

if he inherits the lead he'll be happy to slow it down. if no chancers like recapitulatecowtowncat want to run off, he'll stalk and wait for them to back up.

there is no one whose chances rise more than big brown's on this news.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Surprise, surprise.

Extending your redboarding buffoonery to injuries now?

That's precious.

[whodey17]

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

[blackthroatedwind]

I really need to thank everyone for the entertainment in this thread and I can only apologize for not doing my part. The highlight? Gotta be the poster who hasn't been here in over five months but blessed us with fifteen ( yeah....I counted ) posts defending the merits of one of the most improbable horses in this year's watered down version of the Kentucky Derby....even going so far as to suggest that he will be a legitimate pace factor. I'll side with " God " in that he is no more likely than last year's last place finisher Cowtown Cat.

I'll miss War Pass and for the obvious reasons I am saddened by what happened. He would most certainly have had his work cut out for him in the Derby but, like him or not, this year's biggest race lost some luster with his defection. And, more than any Derby I can remember, this version needed all the help it could get.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I really need to thank everyone for the entertainment in this thread and I can only apologize for not doing my part. The highlight? Gotta be the poster who hasn't been here in over five months but blessed us with fifteen ( yeah....I counted ) posts defending the merits of one of the most improbable horses in this year's watered down version of the Kentucky Derby..

Dan Illman seems to agree with me. And I see he has a blog at the drf. They must view him as a superior handicapper to you because I can't seem to find yours.

"Recapturetheglory has good speed, is proven at nine furlongs, and is one of the few three-year-olds that have earned a triple-digit Beyer Speed Figure. He’s an interesting sleeper."

http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...dar/radar.html

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Dan Illman seems to agree with me. And I see he has a blog at the drf. They must view him as a superior handicapper to you because I can't seem to find yours.

"Recapturetheglory has good speed, is proven at nine furlongs, and is one of the few three-year-olds that have earned a triple-digit Beyer Speed Figure. He’s an interesting sleeper."

http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...dar/radar.html

When you've helped as many people on my website learn how to improve their horse play and make money as Andy Serling has, let me know.

(And before I hear how I play favorites and the other stuff, let me say that those with nothing to add on this website but attempts to antagonize are going to 'move on'.)

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Dan Illman seems to agree with me. And I see he has a blog at the drf. They must view him as a superior handicapper to you because I can't seem to find yours.

"Recapturetheglory has good speed, is proven at nine furlongs, and is one of the few three-year-olds that have earned a triple-digit Beyer Speed Figure. He’s an interesting sleeper."

http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...dar/radar.html

It is jerkoff statements like this that make good educated posters leave this joint. It takes the actions of one to ruin things for many. Luckily, alot of them have thick skin.

Dan Illman is bootleg as hell, couldn't handicap a 1 horse race. 2ndly, while you are right about Recapturetheglory's Beyer, I am guessing you know the WHOLE story about what is going on, like the fact that Louie Roussel has been real sick of years, and Recapturetheglory was 'thrown' into the Hawthorne race to take a chance, and took 100% advantage of a cooked rail job.

I still am laughing at the fact that you are listening to Dan Illman, and then using his opinion to back up yours.

Dan Illman has a f'n blog. 50% of america has a friggin blog

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

It is jerkoff statements like this that make good educated posters leave this joint. It takes the actions of one to ruin things for many. Luckily, alot of them have thick skin.

Dan Illman is bootleg as hell, couldn't handicap a 1 horse race. 2ndly, while you are right about Recapturetheglory's Beyer, I am guessing you know the WHOLE story about what is going on, like the fact that Louie Roussel has been real sick of years, and Recapturetheglory was 'thrown' into the Hawthorne race to take a chance, and took 100% advantage of a cooked rail job.

I still am laughing at the fact that you are listening to Dan Illman, and then using his opinion to back up yours.

Dan Illman has a f'n blog. 50% of america has a friggin blog

'bootleg' is bad?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

'bootleg' is bad?

Yes

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

'bootleg' is bad?

Not if run naked...out of the I formation

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

'bootleg' is bad?

"Bootleg" is a phrase I wouldn't have heard since 2000 were it not for Scav's constant usage.