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Old 04-22-2008, 12:32 PM
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Default Definite Derby Throw Outs

Not sure this will be any easier but since picking the standout winner in near impossible, who will you definately throw out of your picks and why?

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Old 04-22-2008, 12:34 PM
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Definite tosses:
Recapturetheglory
Anak Nakal
Indian Sun
Z Humor

Likely tosses:
Court Vision
Tale of Ekati
Halo Najib
Bob Black Jack
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:36 PM
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Big Brown
Recapturetheglory
Z Humor
Monba
Cool Coal Man
Cowboy Cal
Big Truck
Halo Najib IF he gets in
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:38 PM
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only thing I usually throw out in the derby is my money.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:48 PM
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only thing I usually throw out in the derby is my money.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:46 PM
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If Churchill would allow me to place an Exacta on the 19th and 20th finishers, I would box Z Humor with Recapturetheglory.

Other than that, I think I'll have to wait for the draw and final field before really being confident in tossing anyone else.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:47 PM
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Other than that, I think I'll have to wait for the draw and final field before really being confident in tossing anyone else.
What post would help you to decide to bet a horse like Anak Nakal?
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:49 PM
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What post would help you to decide to bet a horse like Anak Nakal?
I know Anak's races have been pretty questionable this year, but if this has been the main goal, he wouldn't have had to get any earnings to get here. I really think you might see a different horse on Derby Day with him, plus he will get the pace he needs, and there aren't many that are bred like he is to go this distance.

I know, I know, he hasn't done anything, but Zito would not be going if he didn't have confidence, and I just think he has a opportunity to hit the top 4
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:47 PM
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Z Humor
Both Jones Fillies
Monba
Court Vision
Z Fortune
Recapturetheglory
Anak Nakal
Big Truck
Smooth Air
Cowboy Cal
you don't like Proud Spell at all if she runs in the Derby, I know she is only 15%, but if she did run, I would definetely be using her.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:32 PM
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you don't like Proud Spell at all if she runs in the Derby, I know she is only 15%, but if she did run, I would definetely be using her.
I agree... I think both fillies would have a good shot to run in the money. I don't know that they can win if BB or Pyro "fire", but I would have a hard time leaving them off my tickets.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:33 PM
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I agree... I think both fillies would have a good shot to run in the money. I don't know that they can win if BB or Pyro "fire", but I would have a hard time leaving them off my tickets.
Do not like Eight Belles at all, matter of fact, I don't like her in the Oaks either
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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you don't like Proud Spell at all if she runs in the Derby, I know she is only 15%, but if she did run, I would definetely be using her.
i'll use 1 or both fillies if they run, especially Eight Belles.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:32 PM
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Eight Belles has not shot to win. Proud Spell would have a slight shot.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:05 PM
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This is like being in a room with 2 pretty chicks and 15 fat ones and eliminating each of the fat ones, one by one, rather than just focusing on the 2 babes.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:29 PM
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Not at all. There is a big difference between running down Indian Blessing in a small field and winning a 20 horse race. She's a nice filly, but not Derby winner nice.
I doubt she can win, I agree with that, but I think she would have a better chance then most of hitting the board.....
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:16 PM
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can anyone please tell me if there will be 10 cent supers in the derby--thanks
and for throw outs i usually start by throwing out all california horses and poly specialists then go from there. gotta start somewhere
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:06 PM
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Big Brown
Recapturetheglory
Z Humor
Monba
Cool Coal Man
Cowboy Cal
Big Truck
Halo Najib IF he gets in
I think you're making a BIG mistake by tossing Cool Coal Man, Scav. Don't say I didn't warn you. . .
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:08 PM
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I think you're making a BIG mistake by tossing Cool Coal Man, Scav. Don't say I didn't warn you. . .
I think he tripped out in his two races at Gulfstream this year....I don't have the races in front of me but I just think that while he is a good horse, he has gotten the benefit of decent trips. I could be wrong about this though.

Obviously the list I posted is a tenative list, who knows what I will do come Derby Day...Tilt city could be happening and I go up the window and say "Give me $1000 to win on Anak Nakal"
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:12 PM
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I think you're making a BIG mistake by tossing Cool Coal Man, Scav. Don't say I didn't warn you. . .
What do you guys see in him? His win in the FOY was a perfect set up. Ground saving trip on a track that favors inside posts and stalked the slowest of fractions. Otherwise he hasn't done anything.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:09 PM
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I agree. Especially because he likes Anak Nakal, who seems like a total toss to me. And I know he won at Churchill, but he basically lucked into a perfect trip.
I take it this is going to be used against me for a very long time
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