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Old 04-29-2008, 08:19 AM
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Default Please Close Delaware Park

Please but this grand old track out of its misery. Today, a new low. FIVE races. One of the Arabian
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:41 AM
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Why? Delaware Park is one of the nicer parks to visit in the greater mid-Atlantic area.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:42 AM
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I was feeling initially the same but I think it would be prudent to wait until Delaware gets a chance fill it's barns with the typical influx of Florida horses that come north to spring in Newark/Wilmington then to summer toward Saratoga and the other surrounding meets.

The vibe (gossip) at the track has been that the guy writing races has irritated the horsemen to such an extent that long standing high volume trainers are initially staying away.

Delaware Park is a much better facility than anything Maryland has and the simulcast area added last year is one of the best in the country. The problem is "Gulfstream" disease where the management has forgotten that a successful raceino requires that you actually have horses willing to run there.

I am hopeful it gets straightened out as this track actually has far more racing fans that frequent it than Laurel would ever have.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:57 AM
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Please but this grand old track out of its misery. Today, a new low. FIVE races. One of the Arabian
This is pretty hilarious, you would think that it would cost more to open up when run 5 races.....
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:01 AM
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This is pretty hilarious, you would think that it would cost more to open up when run 5 races.....

They are open for slots regardless.

Delaware is a beautiful track and a great place to spend the day. That being said, I have to wonder how much they are now falling victim to their specific years old program of essentially running a closed club for the few trainers that populated the place. They have basically discouraged outsiders, denying stalls or awarding few stalls to some who wanted to race there, in an attempt to distribute the purses to a very few. Many believe this was a somewhat backroom deal to appease the local horsemen so that they would not campaign for a bigger or better cut of the slot dollars through purses.

You reap what you sow.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:14 AM
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You reap what you sow.
Unfortunetly that seems like the industry motto right now

You have been around a long time so you gone through bad and good within the industry, what is your opinion on what is going on with the ADW mess and Tracknet???
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:26 PM
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They've pumped an awful lot of money into the facility -- you'll be impressed if you've never been there before. However, the small fields and large number of scratches are terrible. I always go to opening day, including this year, but never again. If you wait until around DelCap weekend, on the other hand, the Florida and Maryland horses will have returned and they'll start to have larger, more competitive fields again (I hope).
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:11 PM
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Unfortunetly that seems like the industry motto right now

You have been around a long time so you gone through bad and good within the industry, what is your opinion on what is going on with the ADW mess and Tracknet???
Not answering for Andy but his first comment has a lot to do with this
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:28 PM
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Not answering for Andy but his first comment has a lot to do with this
I know, and I guess simucasting is still fairly new to the industry.

I just get the feeling, in regards to the industry, that new ideas, new innovations are not carefully planned out or tested.

I'll give you an example, Arlington has these new tote machines that are cashless, how much you want to bet that these machines are absolutely the most ridiculous things ever and cause all sorts of problems.

I would rather have a ticket as proof and then I can calculate exactly what I am getting, and then go up to the tell and get hosed on the 2% winning ticket takeout....
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:35 PM
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Not answering for Andy but his first comment has a lot to do with this
Chuck, I would love to hear your comments on the CDI/THG battle being waged. From what I hear, the horsemen are asking for 1/3 of gross takeout from ADW providers, but the ADW's seem to be saying this is not economically feasible.

I'm not completely clear on the details, so I'm not sure if you're on the front lines, or know anybody who is.
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