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Old 05-17-2008, 06:46 PM
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Is he that good or are the others that bad?

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Old 05-17-2008, 06:49 PM
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both
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:49 PM
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the others are that bad AND he is that good
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:55 PM
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Im afraid that you are right on both counts. Seems like all year long everyone on here said this crop of 3yr olds were lousy and i said well lets wait and see. Well i've seen and they are lousy. I just can't believe that this group is one race from the Holy Grail. Unreal
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:15 PM
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so how would he compare to the "good ones" from the last 10 years? I say he would be right there.

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Old 05-17-2008, 07:16 PM
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The others are that bad. The times are pretty much average for the winners of the derby and preakness. Casino will take care of him in 3 weeks.
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This race had only 2 other horses that have won graded stakes. So basically he ran against a bunch of NX2.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:11 PM
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So far, he looks just like many others who have failed in the 3rd leg. They've almost all won the Preakness in dominating performances. The difference I see with this horse though, is he is waiting for orders. Sometimes he seems almost as smart as a dog.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:21 PM
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The two horses that Big Brown was stalking through three quarters finished neck and neck in 11th and 12th places . Twenty five lengths behind Big Brown.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:26 PM
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I was on Gayego in the Derby and skipped playing the second jewel, but I will be rooting for Big Brown to to take home the triple crown.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:27 PM
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Both of them, though, were destined for that fate. . . Gayego was way over the top and was sent too hard (not that that wasn't his best chance to win) and Riley Tucker is clearly not a dirt horse. . . or much of a horse for that matter. . .
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:30 PM
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FUNNY CIDE dominated the Preakness,too. Recent history shows the Derby Winners seem to actually peak in the Preakness. They are usually still good enough to win the Preakness or Derby (3 weeks later,) but that isn't the task at hand.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:34 PM
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He hasn't beaten anything yet, but he is a hell of a horse.

As a fan, you want to see him in a couple of dogfights.

It is highly improbable as his stud value reaches a cieling that he will race for very long, but this is a horse with a talent and a pedigree that is very exciting as far as possibilities.
He could potentially compete with the best classic distance dirt runners in the world and probably, kick @$$ on turf and ANY brand of synthetic as well. You want to see his full ability and actually be challenged.

If the triple crown is his, you almost want to see a PAY-PER-VIEW race made around BIG BROWN and CURLIN, with guaranteed earnings paid to both of those just for showing up, along with some world class invities. - even if it is within the infrastructure of an existing graded stakes event.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:39 PM
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Zenyata, Curlin, and Big Brown in a 10f fight (that would be pretty good.) Somebody in a white robe should make it happen. Winner gets 10 mil. Call it the race of the century.
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a comparison could be made to seattle slew's 1977 opponents.

another year where one standout dominated a seemingly weak group. but then there was j.o. tobin in the swaps.

slew would be remembered as a 3crown champion regardless but his 4yo campaign removed the question marks.

big brown is likely going to have to do it all this year.

i question the likelihood he has an a.p. indy in him.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:10 PM
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a comparison could be made to seattle slew's 1977 opponents.

another year where one standout dominated a seemingly weak group. but then there was j.o. tobin in the swaps.

slew would be remembered as a 3crown champion regardless but his 4yo campaign removed the question marks. big brown is likely going to have to do it all this year.

i question the likelihood he has an a.p. indy in him.
very true..of course his two year old season, and winning the t.c. undefeated put him in rarified air. but he certainly 'backed up' his three year old season with his four year old campaign.
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I never understood why the Kentucky Derby was in May. Why not December?
A lot of 3 year olds develop later in the year.
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I never understood why the Kentucky Derby was in May. Why not December?
A lot of 3 year olds develop later in the year.
I imagine Churchill will be a sloppy mess?
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He thinks the super bowl should be the first saturday in May
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:47 PM
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a comparison could be made to seattle slew's 1977 opponents.

another year where one standout dominated a seemingly weak group. but then there was j.o. tobin in the swaps.

slew would be remembered as a 3crown champion regardless but his 4yo campaign removed the question marks.

big brown is likely going to have to do it all this year.

i question the likelihood he has an a.p. indy in him.

Slew dusted JO Tobin in the Preakness.

I could be wrong, but I am guessing if Run Dusty Run was around now he would be the darling of message boards ( along with Jatski ). Hell, Silver Series was no slouch ( though I doubt Slew faced him ) as he was second to Forego in the Woodward after running third to the aforementioned two in the Travers.
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