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Old 05-26-2008, 04:56 PM
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This is a very good opinion piece. Sums up my feelings exactly. Only can post a little but it is worth reading the entire thing.

http://www.kentucky.com/232/story/414804.html

Love the horse, but that trainer's irritating
By John Clay
HERALD-LEADER SPORTS COLUMNIST

Memo to Rick Dutrow: Don't call us "babe."

We like your horse. What's not to like? He's Big. He's Brown. He has better acceleration than Danica Patrick. Big Brown is thoroughbred racing's answer to teleporting.

In fact, there is overwhelming reason to believe that Big Brown will give a shaky sport what it has so desperately craved, the purely positive story that would come from the sport's first Triple Crown winner in 30 years.

That is, Rick, if you don't ruin it.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:33 PM
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too funny, the guy asking rick to dutrow to show respect for the sport. oh, that is just so freaking hilarious.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:24 PM
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So Dutrow was standing wrong in an interview, and this is one of the reasons he's bad for the sport?
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:30 PM
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Just more of the same in my opinion. Personally, I think this is nothing more than a shield and sword attitude -- and far too many in the media are using this type of reporting just because they can. It's the melodramatic, theatrical, etc. -- BS! The "claims" and "criticisms" and "finger pointing" all has the gasp element.

So he doesn't like that Dutrow calls everyone "Babe" -- OK, don't speak to Dutrow and he won't call you "Babe", LOL. You don't like his confidence or arrogance -- great, don't report on him, move on, next. There's a cat stuck in a tree on Main Street and I am sure a Pulitzer Prize will come out of that. You don't like the way he sits on a chair at his own barn? OK, got it. Go to someone else's barn and decide if you like the way they sit.

This is not written for people "in the game" so to speak. Of course, an aticle can't be written unless it addresses WINSTROL. What was there to write or report about before this LEGAL drug became the only topic we would ever want to read about? We all know what we get with Rick Dutrow. Let's go over this one more time -- the Winstrol issue is not an issue, yet the media will make it one time and time again. Now let's get this straight -- THIS IS NOT A RICK DUTROW ISSUE . . . It is an INDUSTRY ISSUE and the media is hurting the industry by reporting like this.

This is not a defense of Rick Dutrow. My horses have lost more races to his horses than I care to remember. But that's the game. This type of reporting does not help the game.

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Old 05-26-2008, 09:32 PM
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Lost me at "If that was bad, your body language was almost worse."
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:37 PM
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I think it is just a respect issue. The sport doesn't need Dutrow but Dutrow needs the sport. He doesn't have to be Neil Drysdale but he should have a little more respect for other trainers and horses and the media.

This is a very tough sport and Dutrow should be nice to the people on his way up because I guarantee there will be a hard fall for this guy eventually and there won't be too many people getting his back.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:01 PM
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Just more of the same in my opinion. Personally, I think this is nothing more than a shield and sword attitude -- and far too many in the media are using this type of reporting just because they can. It's the melodramatic, theatrical, etc. -- BS! The "claims" and "criticisms" and "finger pointing" all has the gasp element.

So he doesn't like that Dutrow calls everyone "Babe" -- OK, don't speak to Dutrow and he won't call you "Babe", LOL. You don't like his confidence or arrogance -- great, don't report on him, move on, next. There's a cat stuck in a tree on Main Street and I am sure a Pulitzer Prize will come out of that. You don't like the way he sits on a chair at his own barn? OK, got it. Go to someone else's barn and decide if you like the way they sit.

This is not written for people "in the game" so to speak. Of course, an aticle can't be written unless it addresses WINSTROL. What was there to write or report about before this LEGAL drug became the only topic we would ever want to read about? We all know what we get with Rick Dutrow. Let's go over this one more time -- the Winstrol issue is not an issue, yet the media will make it one time and time again. Now let's get this straight -- THIS IS NOT A RICK DUTROW ISSUE . . . It is an INDUSTRY ISSUE and the media is hurting the industry by reporting like this.

This is not a defense of Rick Dutrow. My horses have lost more races to his horses than I care to remember. But that's the game. This type of reporting does not help the game.

Eric
Exactly!

Personally, i think its refreshing. Personalities like Dutrow's are a good thing. Maybe trainers or owners who want to shut him up might show up with their horses.

This "columnist" obviously has an agenda.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:02 PM
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Just more of the same in my opinion. Personally, I think this is nothing more than a shield and sword attitude -- and far too many in the media are using this type of reporting just because they can. It's the melodramatic, theatrical, etc. -- BS! The "claims" and "criticisms" and "finger pointing" all has the gasp element.

So he doesn't like that Dutrow calls everyone "Babe" -- OK, don't speak to Dutrow and he won't call you "Babe", LOL. You don't like his confidence or arrogance -- great, don't report on him, move on, next. There's a cat stuck in a tree on Main Street and I am sure a Pulitzer Prize will come out of that. You don't like the way he sits on a chair at his own barn? OK, got it. Go to someone else's barn and decide if you like the way they sit.

This is not written for people "in the game" so to speak. Of course, an aticle can't be written unless it addresses WINSTROL. What was there to write or report about before this LEGAL drug became the only topic we would ever want to read about? We all know what we get with Rick Dutrow. Let's go over this one more time -- the Winstrol issue is not an issue, yet the media will make it one time and time again. Now let's get this straight -- THIS IS NOT A RICK DUTROW ISSUE . . . It is an INDUSTRY ISSUE and the media is hurting the industry by reporting like this.

This is not a defense of Rick Dutrow. My horses have lost more races to his horses than I care to remember. But that's the game. This type of reporting does not help the game.

Eric
This was an opinion piece/column. It is the price that you pay when your sport gets publicity. When you have an individual with a past like Dutrow and with his mannerisms can you really complain about what guys like this write? Other sports get it much worse on a regular basis. If we want to be considered as a news worthy sport we have to remember that most news that is reported is negative and as such reporters and columnists will write much more about knocking things than writing positive, 'puff pieces'.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:21 PM
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This was an opinion piece/column. It is the price that you pay when your sport gets publicity. When you have an individual with a past like Dutrow and with his mannerisms can you really complain about what guys like this write? Other sports get it much worse on a regular basis. If we want to be considered as a news worthy sport we have to remember that most news that is reported is negative and as such reporters and columnists will write much more about knocking things than writing positive, 'puff pieces'.
Chuck, I completely get that, and I don't have a problem with it. Dutrow's a target, and for many reasons he should be. For others perhaps not. Regardless, if we want to make this look better, what do we do -- compare it to something worse? LOL.

Report on Dutrow's positives, how the rules must be changed, zero tolerence, uniform medication rules, and so on -- all the things we really need in this game.

Winstrol? Dovetail it with Dutrow's attitude, way of sitting, speaking, and the fact that you don't "like him"? I think we see the type of journalism this is.

Eric
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:33 AM
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This was an opinion piece/column. It is the price that you pay when your sport gets publicity. When you have an individual with a past like Dutrow and with his mannerisms can you really complain about what guys like this write? Other sports get it much worse on a regular basis. If we want to be considered as a news worthy sport we have to remember that most news that is reported is negative and as such reporters and columnists will write much more about knocking things than writing positive, 'puff pieces'.
Well said. While some may not like how some of the media is reporting on horse racing.. especially the mainstream media which is often uninformed and gets involved only during this time of year.. this is NOT a report. It's one guy's opinion. Fair or not, other major sports get this type of scrutiny year round.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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it's hard to pick.

which blowhard do i dislike more? the obnoxious drunk or the mohair suit yelling at him?

i wouldn't have thought it possible but i think this article actually made me start to sympathize with dutrow.

wouldn't a simple "shut up" have sufficed?
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:06 PM
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Just another whining opinion about a guy that many people dislike.
Nothing new in the world of sports.
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